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I had a new client today with 2 Elkhounds. One was name Tucker, and I
couldn't stop myself from calling him TUCK. I don't see a lot of Elkhounds, maybe 1-2 a year, so it's pretty neat to have some in training. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Janet Boss spoke these words of wisdom
in : I had a new client today with 2 Elkhounds. One was name Tucker, and I couldn't stop myself from calling him TUCK. I don't see a lot of Elkhounds, maybe 1-2 a year, so it's pretty neat to have some in training. Thanks for making me smile ) Tuck is not a name I've ever heard any Elkhound called. Suddenly there are Tuck elkhounds everywhere. I have a whole lot of breeders and new elkhound puppy owners telling me they are naming their dogs after Tuck. And Tuck's in Tuck's R.E.A.D. class, 5 kids got puppies for Christmas. And all five puppies happen to be named TUCK... even the girls. I'm not sure how that happened. How old is Tucker in your class? |
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wrote: I'm not sure how that happened. How old is Tucker in your class? He's actually part of a private client pair. It's the rescue female that I was called for. They estimate her at 18m. He's 5y. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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diddy wrote:
And Tuck's in Tuck's R.E.A.D. class, 5 kids got puppies for Christmas. And all five puppies happen to be named TUCK... even the girls. I hope I'm jumping to the wrong conclusions and that this isn't as bad as it sounds at first. 5 kids in a small class got puppies for Christmas? Are these families where they've had dogs before? Where they know the basics of puppy care and house training? Where the dogs will be taken to a veterinarian? Where the adults know how to teach the children to be patient and gentle and consistent on a day in and day out basis? Where the dogs will get training in good manners? Where the families are committed to keeping that puppy for the length of its good and healthy life? Because it sounds to me like the R.E.A.D program may have inadvertently acted as the worst sort of advertising. The kids meet this terrific dog at school, hound their parents for one so they can have one of their very own that they don't have to share, then discover that a full-time dog isn't all the fun stuff where a perfect dog comes to them already trained and perfect. We all know what happens to dogs where the family isn't prepared to troubleshoot normal behaviors. In this case, not only is it tragic for the dog, the implications for the kids who can't understand why Tuck II peed on the carpet, ate Mom's good winter boots and finally got sent away for snapping, are heartbreaking. --Lia |
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Julia Altshuler spoke these words of wisdom in
: diddy wrote: And Tuck's in Tuck's R.E.A.D. class, 5 kids got puppies for Christmas. And all five puppies happen to be named TUCK... even the girls. I hope I'm jumping to the wrong conclusions and that this isn't as bad as it sounds at first. 5 kids in a small class got puppies for Christmas? Are these families where they've had dogs before? Where they know the basics of puppy care and house training? Where the dogs will be taken to a veterinarian? Where the adults know how to teach the children to be patient and gentle and consistent on a day in and day out basis? Where the dogs will get training in good manners? Where the families are committed to keeping that puppy for the length of its good and healthy life? Because it sounds to me like the R.E.A.D program may have inadvertently acted as the worst sort of advertising. The kids meet this terrific dog at school, hound their parents for one so they can have one of their very own that they don't have to share, then discover that a full-time dog isn't all the fun stuff where a perfect dog comes to them already trained and perfect. We all know what happens to dogs where the family isn't prepared to troubleshoot normal behaviors. In this case, not only is it tragic for the dog, the implications for the kids who can't understand why Tuck II peed on the carpet, ate Mom's good winter boots and finally got sent away for snapping, are heartbreaking. --Lia EXACTLY And the kids are coming to school complaining because their dogs pee on the floor and the house smells like poop and pee. And their dog doesn't act like Tuck. Myself and my friends who are also doing the READ program are scrambling for AKC materials on responsible dog owning to pass out .. not only to the classes.. but to the whole SCHOOL. We also need fast intervention on dog safety awareness for the whole school. The kids we work with, have been taught how to properly approach a dog, and ask permission to pet them. And ask where the dog prefers to be petted. It's the kids transitioning classes in the halls where every kid in a line, reaches for the dogs, and mobs them, grabbing them aroung the necks and giving them big hugs, and even outside the school, parents waiting to pick up their kids, see them, and jump out of their vehicles " IS that TUCK?" and mob him, without asking. We have asked the school to put on a safety with dogs presentation. We provide the materials graciously provided by the AKC for free. OUR kids aren't the problem. It's the kids we never have contact with that are exposing themselves to dangers, because they don't have a clue how to approach a dog safely. The dogs in the school were pre-selected, trained and evaluated for stability before ever being allowed in the school, and are carrying special insurance...just in case. It's as heartbreaking as it sounds, unfortunately. Danny was in the schools. I have been active in Elkhound rescue ever since. I made them popular in this area, and my area, to this day, produces more rescues from Elkhounds than any other part of the country. There is a penalty for being involved. When I go into the schools, I don't tell anyone what breed he is. And now the mutts of the world are paying the price for being involved. |
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diddy wrote:
EXACTLY And the kids are coming to school complaining because their dogs pee on the floor and the house smells like poop and pee. And their dog doesn't act like Tuck. We have asked the school to put on a safety with dogs presentation. We provide the materials graciously provided by the AKC for free. It's as heartbreaking as it sounds, unfortunately. Oh shoot. I was hoping I was wrong. It sounds like you're doing all you reasonably can. --Lia |
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Julia Altshuler spoke these words of wisdom in
: diddy wrote: EXACTLY And the kids are coming to school complaining because their dogs pee on the floor and the house smells like poop and pee. And their dog doesn't act like Tuck. We have asked the school to put on a safety with dogs presentation. We provide the materials graciously provided by the AKC for free. It's as heartbreaking as it sounds, unfortunately. Oh shoot. I was hoping I was wrong. It sounds like you're doing all you reasonably can. --Lia AKC also has a Canine Ambassador program. AKC provides much literature, movies, and coloring books and activities free on request for responsible dog care, responsible breeding practices, and responsible dog ownership. They sent us 100 packets. We responded, this is NOT enough. It's the school we need help with. They called me back today. We had a long talk about the problem. They are contacting the school principle tomorrow to see how much cooperation they will get. And how many copies are needed. AKC has been most supportive. We've already discussed the problem with the Superintendent. I know there will be full cooperation. The school is VERY cooperative in the READ program and treasures the therapy dogs participating. |
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diddy wrote:
AKC also has a Canine Ambassador program. AKC provides much literature, movies, and coloring books and activities free on request for responsible dog care, responsible breeding practices, and responsible dog ownership. They sent us 100 packets. We responded, this is NOT enough. It's the school we need help with. They called me back today. We had a long talk about the problem. They are contacting the school principal tomorrow to see how much cooperation they will get. And how many copies are needed. AKC has been most supportive. We've already discussed the problem with the Superintendent. I know there will be full cooperation. The school is VERY cooperative in the READ program and treasures the therapy dogs participating. I'm glad AKC is doing so much. I suppose it's possible that there are kids in the READ program whose parents are excellent readers who are in the habit of getting information from the printed word. I think it more likely, though, that the kids who got new puppies have parents who might be functionally literate but who don't read all the time and regularly and who think of going to the library when they need to know something. That's what worries me about packets. Nothing wrong with packets, but the parents might be the sort who take in information different ways. And even if they did read the packets, look at all the times on this list when we end up telling new dog owners that they need in-person help. Reading about dog training isn't the same as having someone watch you interact with your dog and help you notice everything and help with timing. Out of curiousity-- Are Tucks II, III, IV, V, and VI elkhounds? Were they chosen to look like Tuck the First? Of did the kids go for smaller, cuter, or something more like Beethoven, Eddie, Lassie or Murray? --Lia |
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Julia Altshuler spoke these words of wisdom in
: diddy wrote: AKC also has a Canine Ambassador program. AKC provides much literature, movies, and coloring books and activities free on request for responsible dog care, responsible breeding practices, and responsible dog ownership. They sent us 100 packets. We responded, this is NOT enough. It's the school we need help with. They called me back today. We had a long talk about the problem. They are contacting the school principal tomorrow to see how much cooperation they will get. And how many copies are needed. AKC has been most supportive. We've already discussed the problem with the Superintendent. I know there will be full cooperation. The school is VERY cooperative in the READ program and treasures the therapy dogs participating. I'm glad AKC is doing so much. I suppose it's possible that there are kids in the READ program whose parents are excellent readers who are in the habit of getting information from the printed word. I think it more likely, though, that the kids who got new puppies have parents who might be functionally literate but who don't read all the time and regularly and who think of going to the library when they need to know something. Actually some of the kids in the READ program are excellent readers too. Some of the kids are in intervention for many divergent reasons. One is a fragile diabetic. Being a kid, he's tempted by candy, and he's been in school for READ twice since Christmas. The rest of the time, he's in the hospital. Some are excellent readers....except legally blind. Some have hearing AND sight issues. One is a good reader, but autistic. (He's never made eye contact with anyone, and suddenly he IS making eye contact with me. I feel honored!) But there are many reasons for them for being in intervention other than being poor readers or retarded. There are a few that really ARE retarded. I worry about them. But they CAN read! I see what these teachers have done with these students, and the lengths they go to see they get educated in spite of their issues (The READ program is testimony to this) and I'm just amazed. That's what worries me about packets. Nothing wrong with packets, but the parents might be the sort who take in information different ways. We do what we can. And even if they did read the packets, look at all the times on this list when we end up telling new dog owners that they need in-person help. Reading about dog training isn't the same as having someone watch you interact with your dog and help you notice everything and help with timing. I tell these kids every day.. Tuck goes to school every day..even when they don't (I don't tell them he's home schooled.. but he is enrolled in classes in 3 different dog clubs) I also tell them, that all of the dogs they see in this school are owned and handled by Instructors at the Greenville Area Dog Club. (Who's website was created by the gracious generousity of montana!) So they all know that these dogs are trained locally at the local dog club. Out of curiousity-- Are Tucks II, III, IV, V, and VI elkhounds? None of them. But I've never mentioned Tuck's breed. They just think he's a "snow dog" When asked what breed he is. I simply say "Nordic Spitz" Were they chosen to look like Tuck the First? Of did the kids go for smaller, cuter, or something more like Beethoven, Eddie, Lassie or Murray? I have not seen their dogs. I really don't know. I know one Tuck is a chocolate Lab. --Lia |
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diddy wrote:
Actually some of the kids in the READ program are excellent readers too. Some of the kids are in intervention for many divergent reasons. One is a fragile diabetic. Being a kid, he's tempted by candy, and he's been in school for READ twice since Christmas. The rest of the time, he's in the hospital. Some are excellent readers....except legally blind. Some have hearing AND sight issues. One is a good reader, but autistic. (He's never made eye contact with anyone, and suddenly he IS making eye contact with me. I feel honored!) But there are many reasons for them for being in intervention other than being poor readers or retarded. There are a few that really ARE retarded. I worry about them. But they CAN read! I see what these teachers have done with these students, and the lengths they go to see they get educated in spite of their issues (The READ program is testimony to this) and I'm just amazed. We do what we can. I tell these kids every day.. Tuck goes to school every day..even when they don't (I don't tell them he's home schooled.. but he is enrolled in classes in 3 different dog clubs) I also tell them, that all of the dogs they see in this school are owned and handled by Instructors at the Greenville Area Dog Club. (Whose website was created by the gracious generousity of montana!) So they all know that these dogs are trained locally at the local dog club. None of them. But I've never mentioned Tuck's breed. They just think he's a "snow dog" When asked what breed he is. I simply say "Nordic Spitz" I have not seen their dogs. I really don't know. I know one Tuck is a chocolate Lab. Until this moment, I thought the READ program was only for slow readers. I see now that the program is broader than I originally thought. I started imagining telling the kids that Tuck is a very special dog who cost zillions of dollars and learns so well because he's magic. That might deter the kids from getting a puppy, naming it Tuck, and expecting the world. Nah, that wouldn't work either. It never works to lie to kids, but sometimes it's a challenge to tell them the truth in a way that they'll understand. --Lia |
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