Soon we will be relocating to the Phoenix area of Arizona. I want to be prepared in case Chester (about a 50 lb chow/lab mix) has an encounter with scorpions or rattlesnakes. What should I have on hand for emergency care before I can get him to the vet?
I've heard Benedryll works for humans in the event of a scorpion sting, but is it advisable for emergency canine treatment?
Thanks in advance!

__________________
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."

Will Rogers, 1897-1935

Chester's Mom said in
rec.pets.dogs.health:

I've heard Benedryll works for humans in the event of a
scorpion sting, but is it advisable for emergency canine
treatment?

This is a question that you should ask of your new Phoenix vet.

FWIW, Benadryl is a safe drug for dogs (according to my vet) and
I keep it on hand for wasp and bee stings. Per kg, dogs can
take twice the human dose, so I'll give an entire pill to my 40
to 50 pound dogs.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Thanks, Matt (and Rocky)

Since I'm still in Colorado and we don't have the scorpion issue here (thank goodness!) and I don't have an Arizona vet yet, I was hoping for some helpful advice. So... THANKS!

I will contact someone there once I arrive, but I wanted to be prepared ahead of time.

The benefit of a chow mix is the long, thick hair. So unless Chester gets stung or pinched on his nose or pads (the only exposed areas) I'll be okay.

HE won't... LOL!

Just kidding... I'll be sure to check ahead of time. A good friend of mine (human) was stung by a scorpion and was in a lot of discomfort, but the poison control folks advised a baking soda paste on the area along with Benadryll and ice packs while keeping her foot elevated. Since the elevation issue isn't always possible (well... almost never possible) with a dog, I just thought I'd find out another appropriate emergency treatment.

Thanks again! And if you think of anything else, let me know.

__________________
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."

Will Rogers, 1897-1935

Hello Chester's Mom,

On Apr 16, 1:07 pm, Chester's Mom
wrote:
Soon we will be relocating to the Phoenix area of Arizona.
I want to be prepared in case Chester (about a 50 lb chow/
lab mix) has an encounter with scorpions or rattlesnakes.

You'd be naive to think scorpions and rattlesnakes are the
greatest threat to your dog Chester. They're HARMLESS in the
face of your ignorance as to how to properly train Chester
to avoid ALL toxic critters like Coral Snakes, Gila Monsters,
Tarantula, Brown, and Black Widow spiders, toads, centipedes
and the wide variety of toxic critters and plants he'll likely
find in your house and backyward.

What should I have on hand for emergency care before
I can get him to the vet?

You can easily train Chester not to molest wildlife nor eat
toxic plants or even chew the infameous chicken bone if you
learn how to disabuse him of such nonsense.

I've heard Benedryll works for humans
in the event of a scorpion sting,

Scorpion stings are generally not deathly. Coral snakes
and Gila Monsters are probably the most toxic and readily
available dangers in the south / south west and unless you
actually SEE the bite you'd never know Chester had tangled
with a venomous animal as they do not have fangs which leave
marks.

but is it advisable for emergency canine treatment?

It'll take you just a few minutes to teach Chester to
avoid molesting critters and eating toxic plants he's
got no business disturbing in the first place:

http://relinkz.com/Poison_Proofing

Thanks in advance!

You're welcome~!

--
Chester's Mom

Supreme Magistrate,

SM, thanks for the feedback.

Actually, Chester is very well trained to leave critters alone. Here in Colorado, we have coyotes, mountain lions and bears, just to name a few. He doesn't chase squirrels or rabbits, either.

My concern was an accidental encounter with anything toxic. We'll be in a relatively urban environment, but scorpions and snakes still manage to hide in some unexpected places.

Because we currently live in an area subject to wildfire I have an emergency kit for my pets in the garage and ready to go. Bottled water, food, blankets, etc. Oh yeah... there's one for we humans, too!

Of course I will establish a relationship with a new and reliable vet as soon as we relocate. I just thought it would be prudent to be prepared ahead of time.

Again, thanks for your thoughts.

__________________
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."

Will Rogers, 1897-1935

On Apr 20, 1:11*pm, wrote:
Hello Chester's Mom,

On Apr 16, 1:07 pm, Chester's Mom
wrote:

Soon we will be relocating to the Phoenix area of Arizona.
I want to be prepared in case Chester (about a 50 lb chow/
lab mix) has an encounter with scorpions or rattlesnakes.

You'd be naive to think scorpions and rattlesnakes are the
greatest threat to your dog Chester. They're HARMLESS in the
face of your ignorance as to how to properly train Chester
to avoid ALL toxic critters like Coral Snakes, Gila Monsters,
Tarantula, Brown, and Black Widow spiders, toads, centipedes
and the wide variety of toxic critters and plants he'll likely
find in your house and backyward.

What should I have on hand for emergency care before
I can get him to the vet?

You can easily train Chester not to molest wildlife nor eat
toxic plants or even chew the infameous chicken bone if you
learn how to disabuse him of such nonsense.

I've heard Benedryll works for humans
in the event of a *scorpion sting,

Scorpion stings are generally not deathly. Coral snakes
and Gila Monsters are probably the most toxic and readily
available dangers in the south / south west and unless you
actually SEE the bite you'd never know Chester had tangled
with a venomous animal as they do not have fangs which leave
marks.

but is it advisable for emergency canine treatment?

It'll take you just a few minutes to teach Chester to
avoid molesting critters and eating toxic plants he's
got no business disturbing in the first place:

http://relinkz.com/Poison_Proofing

Thanks in advance!

You're welcome~!

--
Chester's Mom

Supreme Magistrate,


Sooooo....just what are you selling? Snake Oil???

Hellow mrsmaureen_mack,

"mrsmaureen_mack" wrote in message
...
On Apr 20, 1:11 pm, wrote:
Hello Chester's Mom,

On Apr 16, 1:07 pm, Chester's Mom
wrote:

Soon we will be relocating to the Phoenix area of Arizona.
I want to be prepared in case Chester (about a 50 lb chow/
lab mix) has an encounter with scorpions or rattlesnakes.

You'd be naive to think scorpions and rattlesnakes are the
greatest threat to your dog Chester. They're HARMLESS in the
face of your ignorance as to how to properly train Chester
to avoid ALL toxic critters like Coral Snakes, Gila Monsters,
Tarantula, Brown, and Black Widow spiders, toads, centipedes
and the wide variety of toxic critters and plants he'll likely
find in your house and backyward.

What should I have on hand for emergency care before
I can get him to the vet?

You can easily train Chester not to molest wildlife nor eat
toxic plants or even chew the infameous chicken bone if you
learn how to disabuse him of such nonsense.

I've heard Benedryll works for humans
in the event of a scorpion sting,

Scorpion stings are generally not deathly. Coral snakes
and Gila Monsters are probably the most toxic and readily
available dangers in the south / south west and unless you
actually SEE the bite you'd never know Chester had tangled
with a venomous animal as they do not have fangs which leave
marks.

but is it advisable for emergency canine treatment?

It'll take you just a few minutes to teach Chester to
avoid molesting critters and eating toxic plants he's
got no business disturbing in the first place:

http://relinkz.com/Poison_Proofing

Thanks in advance!

You're welcome~!

--
Chester's Mom

Supreme Magistrate,


Sooooo....just what are you selling?

It SEZ there's NUTHIN for sale on the site.

Snake Oil???

INFORMATION. FREE INFORMATION.

The KIND of FREE INFORMATION that'd teach you how
to TRAIN your own horse NEARLY INSTANTLY not to
roll in the sweet spot.

LIKE THIS:

From: mrsmaureen_mack
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:41:21 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Bath Day
I can't wait to give decent baths.....of course we all know what a
waste of time it is....they manage to find and roll in the only spot
of manure in the field

---------------------

The SAME FREE INFORMATION that'd train betsy's
Macho Man NEARLY INSTANTLY not to throw her
to get to the alphalpha.

LIKE THIS:

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: Maureen
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:13:14 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Lesson on the Macho Man today...

On Apr 13, 9:20 pm, betsey wrote:

Katie and I went up for a lesson on Mach today...both of our lessons
were very similar, if not identical in content. to recap, Mach is at
boot camp due to his interpretation of alfalfa=crack, and me coming
off twice this winter in a short period of time.

first, Mach is well on his way to returning to being his old self. I
will say this, coming off of him was unnerving for HIM as well as
me...his confidence seems to be returning quicker than mine g. Deb
has been working on him being balanced, and with a stabilized front
end---he had been wanting to put his head here, here, here, and OH!
over here!. we arent' asking for a head carriage of a wp horse (being
low low low), we ARE asking that he be stable and balanced.

One change in the equipment...currently working in a big fat snaffle.
As a western horse, he'll have to show in a curb, but the snaffle
affords some things that are needed right now and gives everyone a
confidence boost. Today's lesson was using an open outside hand to
ask him to balance himself. he's responding well, and likes the light
contact it affords. As debbie says, it gives him answer to when he
asks "why".

He's coming "home" on friday...remembering that home is now a new
place to all of us (complete with two goats!). it's also at a place
with an instructor in residence...meaning that while we can only get
to deb's every other week (due to travel distance), we can lesson at
home in between times. all good things.

Sounds to me that you made the right move sending Macho to
Camp for his AT (ask Fred, but I'm sure you know that one!).
I hope is new home will be a happy place for all of you!

Maureen....and Peppy, BJ, Chip and Mia who all send house
warming wishes to Macho!!

=============

You seem satisfied not knowing how to train horses.

Do you SELL horse trainin lessons, mrsmaureen_mack?