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When my 9 week old Jack Russell gets a bit tired and fights off sleep
in the usual way pups do by attacking everything and everyone around him, he also often tries to mate with his bedding, teddy bears, and my hands while I try to calm him down. Very strange, I would've thought, for a young pup of only 9 weeks. Now, I have a no-shouting and no- punishment rule to house-training my pup, and so far this approach is going great. When he goes to the toilet in the house I calmly pick him up and carry him into the garden and wait for him to finish what he started there. When he's done, the problem is over until he wants to go again. But this method doesn't work for his other problem; as soon as I bring him back in again he invariably carries on where he left off: shagging everything remotely shagable. Whatever I use to distract him gets shagged or ignored. 1) Is this normal behaviour for a 9 week old pup? 2) Is he likely to ever grow out of it, or will he get worse? 3) Does anyone here have any experience with this problem who can offer me some advice? Oh Christ - he's doing it again! Must go ..... |
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Phil Odox wrote:
When my 9 week old Jack Russell gets a bit tired and fights off sleep in the usual way pups do by attacking everything and everyone around him, he also often tries to mate with his bedding, teddy bears, and my hands while I try to calm him down. Very strange, I would've thought, for a young pup of only 9 weeks. Now, I have a no-shouting and no- punishment rule to house-training my pup, and so far this approach is going great. When he goes to the toilet in the house I calmly pick him up and carry him into the garden and wait for him to finish what he started there. When he's done, the problem is over until he wants to go again. But this method doesn't work for his other problem; as soon as I bring him back in again he invariably carries on where he left off: shagging everything remotely shagable. Whatever I use to distract him gets shagged or ignored. 1) Is this normal behaviour for a 9 week old pup? 2) Is he likely to ever grow out of it, or will he get worse? 3) Does anyone here have any experience with this problem who can offer me some advice? Oh Christ - he's doing it again! Must go ..... I got my JRT at 12 weeks. The humping behavior started shortly thereafter and escalated to attempting to hump my female BC (risky) and my male BC (suicidal). He'd also hump human shins, pillows and pretty much anything else that would hold still for it. When he escalated to picking fights and urinating on walls, bedding and my feet while I was sewing I knew something had to be done. I took him to the vet and although she generally advocates waiting until a year before neutering small dogs in responsible homes due to concerns about anesthesia and development of an adult-sized GU system, she agreed that something had to be done to rein in his thuggish behavior. And so Cooper was neutered at 6 months of age and the humping and marking did subside afterwards, although it took about 4 months to see the full benefit. If the humping is the only obnoxious behavior you might consider ignoring it (other than brushing him off when you yourself are the target), and/or locking him out of sight when you've got guests around. If you're seeing other hormonally driven behaviors or you simply find the situation intolerable you might want to discuss the situation with your vet and find out his/her feelings on early neutering in small breeds. |
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 15:35:12 -0500, Kathleen wrote:
Phil Odox wrote: When my 9 week old Jack Russell gets a bit tired and fights off sleep in the usual way pups do by attacking everything and everyone around him, he also often tries to mate with his bedding, teddy bears, and my hands while I try to calm him down. Very strange, I would've thought, for a young pup of only 9 weeks. Now, I have a no-shouting and no- punishment rule to house-training my pup, and so far this approach is going great. When he goes to the toilet in the house I calmly pick him up and carry him into the garden and wait for him to finish what he started there. When he's done, the problem is over until he wants to go again. But this method doesn't work for his other problem; as soon as I bring him back in again he invariably carries on where he left off: shagging everything remotely shagable. Whatever I use to distract him gets shagged or ignored. 1) Is this normal behaviour for a 9 week old pup? 2) Is he likely to ever grow out of it, or will he get worse? 3) Does anyone here have any experience with this problem who can offer me some advice? Oh Christ - he's doing it again! Must go ..... I got my JRT at 12 weeks. The humping behavior started shortly thereafter and escalated to attempting to hump my female BC (risky) and my male BC (suicidal). He'd also hump human shins, pillows and pretty much anything else that would hold still for it. When he escalated to picking fights and urinating on walls, bedding and my feet while I was sewing I knew something had to be done. I took him to the vet and although she generally advocates waiting until a year before neutering small dogs in responsible homes due to concerns about anesthesia and development of an adult-sized GU system, she agreed that something had to be done to rein in his thuggish behavior. And so Cooper was neutered at 6 months of age and the humping and marking did subside afterwards, although it took about 4 months to see the full benefit. If the humping is the only obnoxious behavior you might consider ignoring it (other than brushing him off when you yourself are the target), and/or locking him out of sight when you've got guests around. If you're seeing other hormonally driven behaviors or you simply find the situation intolerable you might want to discuss the situation with your vet and find out his/her feelings on early neutering in small breeds. Thanks for your advice, Kathleen, and for offering your own personal experience with this breed. I'm glad to hear it's quite normal behaviour. I knew I was taking on a difficult breed, and I'm more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for him to grow out of it. Hopefully, after he's had his jabs I can walk this problem out of him while he goes through his frustrated early years. |
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On 2008-05-27 17:33:01 -0400, Phil Odox said:
I'm more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for him to grow out of it. That's an unusual conclusion to draw from an anecdote that did not offer "do nothing and wait until he outgrows it" as a solution... |
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 17:49:12 -0400, montana wildhack wrote:
On 2008-05-27 17:33:01 -0400, Phil Odox said: I'm more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for him to grow out of it. That's an unusual conclusion to draw from an anecdote that did not offer "do nothing and wait until he outgrows it" as a solution... I didn't draw my conclusion from that. I drew it from the first half of my sentence which you edited out. "I knew I was taking on a difficult breed, and I'm more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for him to grow out of it." It follows that if I knew I was taking on a difficult breed, I'd be more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for that breed of dog to grow out of whatever problem he has during his early years. |
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Phil Odox wrote: It follows that if I knew I was taking on a difficult breed, I'd be more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for that breed of dog to grow out of whatever problem he has during his early years. What? If you've got a difficult breed (and nearly everybody says they do!), you train the dog. The more "difficult" the dog, the more actively you have to train. This might be a good time to start looking for classes. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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It's been my experience that once a humper always one. Even after they are
neutered it can still occur but usually not with such excitement as originally. Barney my lab mix liked to get happy with his teddy bear even at age 11. When I took Buddy in at age 6 he wasn't neutered and lasted here 3 days before I couldn't take it any more. I called my back up vet and had him in the next morning to be neutered. After about 6 months all signs of the behavior has disappeared and hasn't resurfaced. Celeste "Phil Odox" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 May 2008 15:35:12 -0500, Kathleen wrote: Phil Odox wrote: When my 9 week old Jack Russell gets a bit tired and fights off sleep in the usual way pups do by attacking everything and everyone around him, he also often tries to mate with his bedding, teddy bears, and my hands while I try to calm him down. Very strange, I would've thought, for a young pup of only 9 weeks. Now, I have a no-shouting and no- punishment rule to house-training my pup, and so far this approach is going great. When he goes to the toilet in the house I calmly pick him up and carry him into the garden and wait for him to finish what he started there. When he's done, the problem is over until he wants to go again. But this method doesn't work for his other problem; as soon as I bring him back in again he invariably carries on where he left off: shagging everything remotely shagable. Whatever I use to distract him gets shagged or ignored. 1) Is this normal behaviour for a 9 week old pup? 2) Is he likely to ever grow out of it, or will he get worse? 3) Does anyone here have any experience with this problem who can offer me some advice? Oh Christ - he's doing it again! Must go ..... I got my JRT at 12 weeks. The humping behavior started shortly thereafter and escalated to attempting to hump my female BC (risky) and my male BC (suicidal). He'd also hump human shins, pillows and pretty much anything else that would hold still for it. When he escalated to picking fights and urinating on walls, bedding and my feet while I was sewing I knew something had to be done. I took him to the vet and although she generally advocates waiting until a year before neutering small dogs in responsible homes due to concerns about anesthesia and development of an adult-sized GU system, she agreed that something had to be done to rein in his thuggish behavior. And so Cooper was neutered at 6 months of age and the humping and marking did subside afterwards, although it took about 4 months to see the full benefit. If the humping is the only obnoxious behavior you might consider ignoring it (other than brushing him off when you yourself are the target), and/or locking him out of sight when you've got guests around. If you're seeing other hormonally driven behaviors or you simply find the situation intolerable you might want to discuss the situation with your vet and find out his/her feelings on early neutering in small breeds. Thanks for your advice, Kathleen, and for offering your own personal experience with this breed. I'm glad to hear it's quite normal behaviour. I knew I was taking on a difficult breed, and I'm more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for him to grow out of it. Hopefully, after he's had his jabs I can walk this problem out of him while he goes through his frustrated early years. |
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In article ,
Phil Odox wrote: No, I'm going to train him myself without classes. Is waiting for problem behaviors to go away on their own part of your training program? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:26:56 GMT, "Spot" wrote:
It's been my experience that once a humper always one. Even after they are neutered it can still occur but usually not with such excitement as originally. Barney my lab mix liked to get happy with his teddy bear even at age 11. When I took Buddy in at age 6 he wasn't neutered and lasted here 3 days before I couldn't take it any more. I called my back up vet and had him in the next morning to be neutered. After about 6 months all signs of the behavior has disappeared and hasn't resurfaced. Celeste I'm not keen on the idea of neutering him, and unless he develops a medical problem and has to be neutered (which seems very unlikely) I'll keep him intact. You see, I want a dog with a bit of spirit and all the boisterousness that goes with this type of breed. Okay, I didn't expect a randy dog, but I can wait until he grows out of that sort of thing. He'll mature and develop some good manners one day if there isn't a short-cut to it. I was hoping to find one here from someone who has some experience with this sort of thing. "Phil Odox" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 27 May 2008 15:35:12 -0500, Kathleen wrote: Phil Odox wrote: When my 9 week old Jack Russell gets a bit tired and fights off sleep in the usual way pups do by attacking everything and everyone around him, he also often tries to mate with his bedding, teddy bears, and my hands while I try to calm him down. Very strange, I would've thought, for a young pup of only 9 weeks. Now, I have a no-shouting and no- punishment rule to house-training my pup, and so far this approach is going great. When he goes to the toilet in the house I calmly pick him up and carry him into the garden and wait for him to finish what he started there. When he's done, the problem is over until he wants to go again. But this method doesn't work for his other problem; as soon as I bring him back in again he invariably carries on where he left off: shagging everything remotely shagable. Whatever I use to distract him gets shagged or ignored. 1) Is this normal behaviour for a 9 week old pup? 2) Is he likely to ever grow out of it, or will he get worse? 3) Does anyone here have any experience with this problem who can offer me some advice? Oh Christ - he's doing it again! Must go ..... I got my JRT at 12 weeks. The humping behavior started shortly thereafter and escalated to attempting to hump my female BC (risky) and my male BC (suicidal). He'd also hump human shins, pillows and pretty much anything else that would hold still for it. When he escalated to picking fights and urinating on walls, bedding and my feet while I was sewing I knew something had to be done. I took him to the vet and although she generally advocates waiting until a year before neutering small dogs in responsible homes due to concerns about anesthesia and development of an adult-sized GU system, she agreed that something had to be done to rein in his thuggish behavior. And so Cooper was neutered at 6 months of age and the humping and marking did subside afterwards, although it took about 4 months to see the full benefit. If the humping is the only obnoxious behavior you might consider ignoring it (other than brushing him off when you yourself are the target), and/or locking him out of sight when you've got guests around. If you're seeing other hormonally driven behaviors or you simply find the situation intolerable you might want to discuss the situation with your vet and find out his/her feelings on early neutering in small breeds. Thanks for your advice, Kathleen, and for offering your own personal experience with this breed. I'm glad to hear it's quite normal behaviour. I knew I was taking on a difficult breed, and I'm more than prepared to wait for as long as it takes for him to grow out of it. Hopefully, after he's had his jabs I can walk this problem out of him while he goes through his frustrated early years. |
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