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Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians
"Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians" by Jan Rasmussen, award-winning author About Maltese Dogs .
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Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians
Kris L. Christine spoke these words
of wisdom in : *"Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians" * by Jan Rasmussen, award-winning author 'About Maltese Dogs' (http://www.dogs4dogs.com:80/vet) . Veterinarians certainly are dangerous! A lot of sick dogs go there! And sooner or later, they ALWAYS die! |
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Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians
*"Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians" * by Jan Rasmussen, award-winning
author 'About Maltese Dogs' (http://www.dogs4dogs.com:80/vet) . Good job. Spread panic. God knows, there aren't any non-compliant pet owners or those that hear only what they want to hear. 'Cause, ya know, "...the internet says, therefore..." |
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Personally, I think the advice to check to see if there is a vet tech or someone who stays with surgical patients left over night in a clinic is excellent. A friend of mine had her scotty neutered and the vet insisted that it stay overnight. No staff was on-hand during the night and there was a violent thunderstorm (her dog, goes wild over loud sounds) and tore out all the stitches and was a mess the next day.
There are pet owners who are unaware that not all veterinary clinics have 24 hour staff and that there are clinics requiring surgical patients to stay overnight with no one on-site during the night if a problem arises. Pet owners should ask about these things, they are their animals best advocates. |
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Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:34:26 +0100, Kris L. Christine
wrote: ...There are pet owners who are unaware... Very true: there are many ignorant pet owners--and that is why there are some bad vets. The best way to avoid a bad vet is to do your homework, before you arrive at his/her office with your pet. You'll be prepared to ask important questions and a good vet will appreciate and respect your preparedness. As one forever climbing the pet-care learning curve, I agree that people need guidance, but not via intimidation and unfair, unbalanced scare tactics. ________________________________ "If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise." - Unknown |
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Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians
HOWEDY michael ball a.k.a. andrea beck, you despicable
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES manic depressive mental case and rejected pre-op TRAINsexul self cutting psychopath, "Michael A. Ball" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:34:26 +0100, Kris L. Christine wrote: ...There are pet owners who are unaware... Very true: there are many ignorant pet owners- You mean animal lovers who AIN'T AWARE that it's not just ignorameHOWES greedy veterinary malpracticioners they got to be on the lookHOWET for, michael, but it's also RESCUERS like yourself who pose a more subtle but none the less DEADLY threat to the life and well bein of ALL sentinent critters, michael?? LIKE THIS: Newsgroups: alt.med.veterinary From: Michael A. Ball Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:08:20 -0400 Subject: Euthanasia certification classes? Who teaches euthanasia certification classes in most states? I live in Tennessee. Are the classes usually open to anyone with the fee? How much is the fee apt to be? The shelter wants to keep me cleaning kennels the rest of my life, but I would like to expand my capabilities. Thank you. ________________________ Whatever it takes. BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! AND LIKE THIS: Newsgroups: alt.fifty-plus.friends From: Michael A. Ball Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:52:34 -0400 Subject: Superstitious?(sp) On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:43:24 GMT, **Dalin** wrote: Care to tell us why you feel that way? I won't try and argue with you or change your mind, but what happened to put you off cats above all other creatures? I've never liked cats, because their movements are too much like those of rats. Since childhood, I viewed cats as no more than targets. On 12-23-95, I killed a cat that my wife had allowed her daughter to bring into the house, as a pet, several days earlier. The cat was a stray and having it in the house was contrary to our agreement for living here. My wife moved out , permanently, that night. Ten months later, she moved out of this county--deliberately withholding her new address. I haven't heard from her since. Thank you for not trying to change my mind. I won't argue about this issue. Many people hate cats; perhaps most of them are more discrete about voicing their opinions. I try not to say much, but sometimes, I can't resist. Michael Whatever it takes. Newsgroups: alt.fifty-plus.friends From: Michael A. Ball Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:27:17 -0400 Subject: Superstitious?(sp) On 03 Oct 2003 00:12:27 GMT, (Vickie) wrote: I am glad that I know this about you...what you did was sick and creepy and I'll waste no more time on you. Well, I have plenty of time, and I don't mind wasting a bit more of it on You. I'd like to tell you a little story. When I met Victoria, she used marijuana and had lost custody of her four daughters. We met at work, began to care about one another and eventually married. We were very poor: I rode a bicycle to work, rain or shine. At the time we met, Victoria could not prove who she was. She had no birth certificate, no driver's license, no education, no self esteem, etc. We regained custody of her daughters, actually the only one not married by then was 11 year old, Jennifer. Victoria got some counseling, began taking GED classes, got her driver's license and an insured car. Later, she joined the church choir, corrected her credit and obtained a credit card. Eventually, we accepted a job managing this Hospital Guest House. The house is on federal property so it is very safe. Our living area is double was it previously was. All utilities are furnished and there is no maintenance. This arrangement is far superior to anything we could have imagined. One stipulation placed on us was that Victoria's existing cat could be the only pet allowed. Because Victoria felt obligated to provide Jennifer's every request, as a way of making up for lost time, she allowed Jennifer to keep the stray cat in the house. I wasn't about to let this spoiled brat jeopardize such a grand living arrangement. Victoria considered me verbally and emotionally abusive, and killing the illegal cat was the final straw. Since I had helped turn her life around, she had the means to move out. That was almost eight years ago; and I am still managing this house. So, I reckon I must have some degree of compassion- -and probably not as "sick and creepy" as you'd like to believe. You can call my action "sick and creepy", but I call it preserving an unimaginable opportunity for us. By the way, do you really think your little attitude would mean anything to a person like me? LOL! Oh, I shouldn't have asked: seeing how you'll waste no more time on me. Pleasant dreams, Michael Whatever it takes. ------------------- Looks like you've become your own CRUEL step-father, eh, michael? Is THAT HOWE COME you want a sex change operation, mikey?: BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! -and that is why there are some bad vets. Ahhh, so you BLAME the "BAD VETS" on TRUSTING animal lovers rather than the veterinary schools who GET PAID by the pharmacutical companies to PUSH their TOXIC INEFFECTIVE DEATHLY DRUGS for them, michael? The best way to avoid a bad vet is to do your homework, before you arrive at his/her office with your pet. INDEED? You'll be prepared to ask important questions and a good vet will appreciate and respect your preparedness. Ahhh, kinda like HOWE the DOG LOVERS postin here appreciate the WARNINGS and POSTED CASE HISTORIES The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And HorseyWizard provides them? As one forever climbing the pet-care learning curve, You mean, by wanting to become a CERTIFIED EUTHANASIA TECHNICIAN so you won't have to BLUDGEON or STRANGLE your friends and neighbors DEAD KATS when you can't SHOOT them, LIKE HOWE YOU DONE to your stepdaughter's DEAD KAT and your own DEAD DOG Toby for BEIN AFRAID of your other AGGRESSIVE dog and your SHELTER'S DEAD "RESCUE" dog Symphoney for BEIN DEAF, michael? I agree that people need guidance, INDEED? Perhaps you can give us some ADVICE? but not via intimidation and unfair, unbalanced scare tactics. You mean, like HOWE the veterinary malpracticioners TRY to SHAME and EMBARRASS ignorameHOWES dog owners into over vaccinating their dogs every year and BUYIN their TOXIC parasite treatments and commercial GARBAGE dog food they SELL? Here's a little more of michael's POSTED CASE HISTORY of LIES ABUSE MURDER and INSANITY: HOWEDY michael aka michelle aka andrea beck, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable mental case and pre-op TRAINsexual who couldn't qualify for sexual reassignment surgery on accHOWENTA your PSYCH DOC SEZ you'll STILL HATE YOURSELF even if he makes you a woman, "Michael A. Ball" wrote in message news: ... On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:47:43 -0400, Shelly wrote: Rocky wrote: The next step is to make their mouth on your skin uncomfortable, but I'll let the more knowledgeable pit bull people address that one. matty means the Pit Bull dog lovers who MURDER their own dogs on their first grHOWEL at a human. Like HOWE you do, michael. I wouldn't call myself a knowledgeable Pit Bull person, but, But shelly IS a proven lyin animal abusin obsessive compulsive manic depressive mental case, as are matty and yourself. I had a mouthy Pit mix puppy who did *not* get the idea that being bitten wasn't fun for humans. Whenever he'd bite me, I'd fold his lower lip over onto his teeth... MHOWETHING is a BONDING behaivor, michael. HURTIN the dog for MHOWETHING will make IT fearful and aggressive. You know HOWE mentally ill REJECTION made you. HOWE COME would you WANT to do that to a DOG?:/ Subject: "Secret Cutting" Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball Date: Tues, May 30 2000 12:00 am Email: "Michael Ball" The movie, "Secret Cutting" airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern, on USA Network. ----------- Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball Date: Mon, Dec 27 1999 12:00 am Howard Hong wrote, "If I wanted more of this feeling, then it would probably be a pleasure, no?" I almost replied, "WRONG!," and offered this explanation: I sometimes makes little cuts under my watchband, with a razor blade. Although there is some physical pain, I feel triumphant because Michael Ball is getting a little dose of what he deserves. So, it is a pleasure. How odd; even sensations that most people would rate as bad, sick, horrible, etc., can be and are pleasures--if we want them. I never thought of those insignificant little cuts specifically as pleasures, but they are! I love it when little streams of blood trickle down my arm. And I like the reminder pain over the following couple of days, during the healing process. ------------ Subject: Prozac Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball - view profile Date: Mon, Aug 14 2000 12:00 am Prozac affects everyone differently. Please, don't allow other's Prozac experiences to influence you too much. I take another medicine that makes me tired; so, I can't attribute fatigue to Prozac. FWIW, fatigue is a common complaint. I don't believe Prozac has any effect on one's immune system. In my humble opinion, Tabasco Sauce and jalapeno peppers are far more effective than any flu shot! :-) I haven't had a cold in years. :-) Wait a minute! A cat lover!? Oh, well, I suppose someone has to... (((K))) I hope you're doing well today. Michael ------------- I suspect that works better with needle sharp puppy teeth than adult teeth, though. INDEED? It makes dogs fearful and aggressive and then dog lovers like you gotta MURDER them. It does work faster on puppies, but it works very fast on adult dogs, too, doesn't it! shelly SEZ IT DIDN'T WORK for her, michael. Here's HOWE well it worked for you: From: "Jerry Howe" - Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:52:06 -0400 Subject: Symphony rests in Peace. Hello michael, "Michael A. Ball" wrote in message ... As expected, Symphony, the 12 week old puppy, bite case, was euthanized today. No she wasn't euthanized, she was MURDERED, because you do that stuff to dogs for a living for yourself. You're part of the problem, michael. He won't be startled, terrified or confused anymore. That IS reassuring, michael. Is that what your 'boss' told you? I like to believe he has perfect hearing now. I'd prefer you'd take his place. Thanks to everyone who made recommendations, and offered insight, prayers and encouragement. BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! YOU MURDER DOGS FOR A LIVING and you MURDER kats for PLEASURE, michael. I understood the liability issue long before meeting Symphony, but Lynn K.'s experience Your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn is a pathological liar and notorious dog abuser, you puke. with a $30K settlement was a sobering thought. What would be sobering would be to THINK about what you're doing. Still, if there was anyway to nullify that liability and have this puppy adopted, I wanted to find it. Sorry mikey, you just don't have the knowHOWE. -------------------- My dog, Tang, is a neutered Chow Chow. Ahhh, a WELL TRAINED rescue dog, eh, michael? I introduced Teddy, a neutered Chow Chow; Surgical sexual mutilation INCREASES phobic and hyperactive behaviors, michael. There AIN'T NO benefit to "neutering" other than for the veterinary malpracticioners who PROFIT from SHELTER / RESCUE abusers who likeWIZE PROFIT from SELLIN mutilated dogs to caring unsuspecting ignorameHOWESES, otherWIZE, there's BE NO overpupulation problem, after nearly thirty years of SHELTER / RESCUE Spay / Neuter Nazi genocide. known to be dog-on-dog aggressive. You mean, as a BREED they're AFRAID of DOGS, michael? THAT'S DOGGY RACISM, ain't it, michael. Every time I thought we'd solved the problem, You mean, every time you REPRESSED your puppy's FEAR BEHAVIOR by jerking an chokin IT on your pronged spiked pinch choke collar and sprayin aversives into ITS eyes and lockin IT in a box and IGNORING ITS CRIES, michael? Teddy proved me wrong- Naaah? -and was PTS You mean you "GAVE UP" an MURDERED IT rather than return IT to the "RESCUE SHELTER" where you voulenteer to MURDER dogs to support yourself seein as you're on SOCIAL SECURITY MENTAL DISABILITY INCOME and can't afford dog food, michael?: From: Michael A. Ball Date: Sat, Apr 8 2006 3:51 pm "Andrew A. Nanton" wrote What is the best way to perform home euthanasia on a dog? I want to put down the family pet but I don't have a lot of money and if there is a way to do it humanely and cheaply, I will. All replies appreciated. Andrew Nanton That's a lot of wisdom--for a "top poster". $50.00 for euthanasia and cremation is a real bargain. The same service would be about $120.00 for a 40# dog, in this area. You know, I don't believe in beating around the bush much. I believe we ought to say what's on our mind. I see you hold a similar view. Of course, having a small mind complicates things. That was quite a generalization you made: "Anybody that can't afford that ($50.00 to have their pet killed) shouldn't have a pet in the first place!" Andrew Nanton didn't mention that the family pet was sick or aged. So, for all we know, the family is saying good bye to their pet because they can't afford $50.00 to keep it alive! If that is the case, they probably don't have $50.00 to kill their pet! Either way, they are trying to do the right thing. Because of money, my pet ownership days are running out. I hope you are never faced with that situation. Whatever it takes. ---------- after nine months. HOWE COME didn't you just RETURN IT to the "RESCUE SHELTER", instead of MURDERIN IT, michael? I just wasn't wise enough to correct his behavior. Naaaah? HOWEver, you ARE "WIZE" enough to advise Tracy abHOWET her fearful dog Dallas? Eventually, I introduced Sophie, a spayed Chow Chow/ Pekingnese. They've gotten along so well. It took them along time, BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Opposite sex aggression is UNHEARD OF in Nature and unmutilated dogs, michael. but they eventually learned to play with one another. AMAZING! Tang is almost three times her size. :-) SHAAAZZZAAAMMM? If Tang had been my troublesome dog, I'd have corrected his behavior You mean you woulda jerked choked an shocked IT, michael? And if THAT failed, you'da done the MOST KINDEST thing for him an MURDERED HIM, JUST LIKE HOWE you MURDERED Symphony for bein DEAF {}: ~ ( before bringing in a new dog. PERHAPS the DOG ain't the PROBLEM, michael? It just seems like the logical thing to do. do. INDEED? Don't you think your ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATIONS might influence your LOGIC, michael? Whatever it takes. What it TAKES is for The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy And Horsey Wizard to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you as the pathetic LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN MENTAL CASE that you are, EVERY TIME YOU POST: Why did your friend give away such a fine dog? Perhaps her friend went into a MENTAL INSTITUTION? How did you get the dog to accept you? Perhaps she knew the dog PRYOR. Besides, that ain't none of your doGdameneD business and it's IRRELEVENT. As I believe you realize, Dallas is far, far behind on socialization; That's a load of CRAP, michael, you pathetic mental case. Socialization is DONE pryor to leavin the litter box otherWIZE a human WOULDN'T BE ABLE to handle IT. You pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable MENTAL PATIENTS MURDER dogs who object to bein jerked an choked on your pronged spiked pinch choke collars an CALL IT RESCUE: From: Michael A. Ball Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:28:13 -0500 Subject: Briar On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:38:47 -0600, Lynne wrote: We had a long afternoon with the behaviorist and learned quite a lot. Unfortunately, Briar is not going to be staying with us... Flame away. I'm numb. No flames he only empathy. Teddy was my version of Briar. I don't even want to talk about him, except to say that I will never forget him. A dog's life is too short; their only fault really. --------------- That's curiHOWES ain't it, michael, seein as it's you DOG LOVERS who MURDER dogs an give them their SHORT LIVES. and it's going to be a challenge to correct- You mean if she jerks and chokes and intimidates IT like HOWE you done to all them DEAD DOGS YOU MURDER at the shelter and your own PETS? Teddy wasn't the ONLY dog of your own you "GAVE UP ON" an MURDERED, was she, michael. -because everyone will fear him. NOT if they DON'T KNOW his history when Tracy rehabilitates her FEAR NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you and the other MENTAL PATIENTS recommend, michael: From: Michael A. Ball Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:02:45 -0400 Subject: introducing dogs into a new family On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 03:12:53 -0400, "bulldog2" wrote: ...I AM EXTREMELY FEARFUL OF THE TWO MALES, ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD THAT 2 MALES IN THE FAMILY NEVER WORKS.IS THERE HOPE OF PEACE AND HARMONY IN THIS SITUATION, OR IS THIS SIMPLY OUT OF THE QUESTION? FIRST, try to get your Caps Lock repaired before posting: everyone will seem nicer to you. Putting two males together shouldn't be a problem; especially if they are neutered, as they ought to be, and if you've given them a clear understanding of what you expect of them. You will become the alpha figure. I had a neutered, nine-month old Sheltie, 24 pounds, and I brought in a 3.5 year old , neutered Sheltie, 14 pounds. That has worked better and better. The older Sheltie had been abused and the puppy had been pampered. So, the puppy has been able to sooth and draw out the timid shelter Sheltie. About six weeks ago, I brought home, from the shelter, a 72 pound, intact, Chow Chow mix, Teddy. He has since been neutered, and all three males get along. Teddy had to persuade the younger Sheltie to leave his food alone, but now, they even play a little. {And Chow Chows aren't the playful type!} :-) So, have your males neutered; make sure they know your expectations and one another's limits, and you should have few problems. Time together should be very closely supervised until *well after* you believe they'll be safe together. When I die, I want to go where dogs go! _____________ Your dog started HOWET NORMAL and you TORMENTED IT till IT WENT INSANE an then you MURDERED IT. REMEMBER, michael?: Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.rescue From: "Michael A. Ball" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:04:11 -0500 Subject: A Visit to a Humane Society "Charles Richmond" wrote Where I live in Texas, it is Lab-x, Shep-x, Chow-x, and Pit-x dogs that fill the shelter. Other types generally get adopted fairly quickly. But the four aforementioned "breeds" are difficult to find homes for. [...] Same in TN--except for the Pit-X. And, yes, they are very hard to find home for. In fact, around here Lab-x, Shep-x, Chow-x, might as well be born dead: they'd suffer less. I just realized that Teddy was gone today--gone to The Bridge! Teddy was a Chow Chow-x. He was adopted when he was a couple of months younger and more cudddly. The remainder of his days were spent chained to a tree, rendering him less cuddly. He was returned as a PTS request. So very often, the wrong "animal" dies; while the guilty animal lives to adopt yet another dog. I'm sorry for venting: rescue folks already know this. -- Michael I wish I were there to meet him. Yeah. Your "advice" to elegy was EXXXCELLENT when she MURDERED her new DEAD RESCUE DOG when IT WENT INSANE from her jerking and choking and locking IT in a box and ignoring ITS cries: Subject: Cower or fear bite--what determines...? "Michael A. Ball" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:31:03 -0400, elegy wrote: what's so fantastic about this dog that you feel the need to save him? that kind of extreme fear is SO far outside of the proper pit bull temperament it's not even funny. why are you focusing your energy here instead of on another pit bull who is of appropriate, outgoing,friendly temperament but who is in just as much need of a home? "Fantastic"? Hmm. I haven't been asked that question before, but it is a fair question. I work with dogs like this [regardless of breed/mix] because they are there. Because they are the under dogs. Because I am interested in learning how to undo the harm done by others. They are my personal learning lab, and I'm a free benefit to the shelter. I do not believe this dog was born with "extreme fear". It would probably have a good temperament, except for the creeps who have owned it. Everyday, I encounter people with temperaments "far outside of the proper" for human beings, but I don't shun them. :-) At present, there are two pit bulls in the adoption area. Neither of them needs my attention, and neither is as pretty as Brinx. I expect both to be killed. Whatever it takes. ---------------- From: "Michael A. Ball" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:35:20 -0500 Subject: Ethical Dilemma (Son bitten by dog in schoolyard) (long) "AussieResc" wrote I find this amazing that someone who posts on a board for rescue would have this attitude. Pat This NG is specifically for dog rescue. I hate cats and never give a cat an even break--unless they just happen to break in the middle. When I started to work at the animal shelter, cleaning kennels, I was asked if I liked cats. I replied enthusiastically, "Yes, if they are cooked right!" I've never had to work with the cats! :-) We're all different. Michael As for the ill tempered collie, our pets are what we make of them--or fail to make of them. If that was TRUE, *(and it is), then HOWE COME would you MURDER YOUR OWN DEAD DOGS, michael? Subject: "Secret Cutting" Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball Date: Tues, May 30 2000 12:00 am Email: "Michael Ball" The movie, "Secret Cutting" airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern, on USA Network. ----------- Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball Date: Mon, Dec 27 1999 12:00 am Howard Hong wrote, "If I wanted more of this feeling, then it would probably be a pleasure, no?" I almost replied, "WRONG!," and offered this explanation: I sometimes makes little cuts under my watchband, with a razor blade. Although there is some physical pain, I feel triumphant because Michael Ball is getting a little dose of what he deserves. So, it is a pleasure. How odd; even sensations that most people would rate as bad, sick, horrible, etc., can be and are pleasures--if we want them. I never thought of those insignificant little cuts specifically as pleasures, but they are! I love it when little streams of blood trickle down my arm. And I like the reminder pain over the following couple of days, during the healing process. ------------ Subject: Prozac Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball - view profile Date: Mon, Aug 14 2000 12:00 am Prozac affects everyone differently. Please, don't allow other's Prozac experiences to influence you too much. I take another medicine that makes me tired; so, I can't attribute fatigue to Prozac. FWIW, fatigue is a common complaint. I don't believe Prozac has any effect on one's immune system. In my humble opinion, Tabasco Sauce and jalapeno peppers are far more effective than any flu shot! :-) I haven't had a cold in years. :-) Wait a minute! A cat lover!? Oh, well, I suppose someone has to... (((K))) I hope you're doing well today. Michael ------------- I don't want to minimize Dallas's problem, or blow it out of proportion. Dogs do what they know to do. ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR, michael. You know all abHOWET AGGRESSION and FEAR, don't you, michael. If you have the resources and a professional trainer is available, use one. You mean WON LIKE THESE, michael?: "Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a stern correction" --Janet Boss http://tinyurl.com/5m6ppt "J1Boss" wrote in message ... He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye. Janet Boss "sionnach" wrote in message ... "J1Boss" wrote in message ... I can't imagine needing anything higher than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab. An INSENSITIVE DOG??? I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9. ======== "Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a stern correction" --Janet Boss "Reliable Punishment Cycles, Different Thresholds To Pain And Punishment, High Tolerance For Correction, Escalation Of Correction To A Level Where The Dog Yelps When You Punish Him, Thus Making The Experience One Which The Dog Will Want To Avoid In The Future," grant teeboon, RAAF. captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK" Makes A ResoundingSound Distraction: "When You Chuck The Dog The Sound Will Travel Up The Mandible To The Ears And Give A Popping Sound To The Dog." "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM" mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web. Otherwise, you can probably correct Dallas's misbehavior. Dallas AIN'T "misbehaving", michael. He's NORMAL. Like your DEAD DOG Teddy was pryor to YOU HURTIN and INTIMIDATIN IT an MAKIN IT AFRAID of your other dog. I doubt that Dallas is trained to guard a physical area, That's IRRELEVENT, michael. and if so, he's away from it now. So, what's he reacting to? Again, why didn't he react that way to you? She's probably been FRIENDS with him all his life. If you know, that's just about what you need to get other people to do. :-) You mean, get people to know Dallas since birth? Get some of your friends/acquaintances who would be willing to help, one at a time, to help you retrain Dallas. The three of you go for a walk. See how close your helper can get to you. If Dallas reacts aggressively that'll REINFORCE his FEAR behavior, won't it, michael. Try to decrease the distance as you walk. Once Dallas appears to accept the presence of the helper, hand the leash to your helper and continue walking. The heelper would have to learn HOWE to pupperly handle the lead so's not to JERK an CHOKE him an cause him to PAINICK, michael. Slowly drift away from Dallas and see if he will tolerate the separation. If Dallas DON'T "tolerate the separation" he'll ATTACK her FRIEND and they'll PROBABLY become AFRAID an MURDER IT like HOWE you done to your own dogs. REMEMBER michael? If he absolutely goes nuts, close up and retake the leash. It'll probably take a while to release his teeth from her friend's arse unless she pulls him off between bites like HOWE paul e. schoen done when his dog ATTACKED a innocent defenseless puppy in janet's OBEDIENCE class thanks to her EXXXPERT PERSONAL REAL LIFE IN PERSON INSTRUCTION jerking and choking him on her custom made pronged spiked pinch choke collar. REMEMBER, michael? Repeat the process until Dallas realizes he will remain safe, in the hands of people you accept. That'll EXXXPIRE all of her FRIENDS, michael. Usually when workin with fear aggressive dogs all you gottta do is PRAISE THEM and they WON'T BE AFRAID so long as you don't jerk and choke the dog to FORCE CON-TROLL like HOWE you done to your own DEAD DOGS. REMEMBER, michael. We all fear the unknown, No we don't, michael. Only COWARDS and VICTIMS OF ABUSE FEAR "things", michael. to various extents; including Dallas. He just needs to eliminate a source of fear: strangers. HOWE do you know Dallas FEARS "strangers", michael? Perhaps he ONLY fears MEN like professora melanie chang's dog Solo?: "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack Wouldn't Have Done It If He Thought Solo Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat,"Melanie Lee Chang" Canine Behavioral Genetics Project University of California, San Francisco http://psych.ucsf.edu/K9BehavioralGenetics/ OR perhaps he ONLY fears men wearin HATS or walkin with a cane or men who've been drinkin or takin ANTI PSYCHOTIC medications like HOWE you do, michael? For what it's worth, Your "advice" ain't worth NUTHIN, michael, you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin sociopath: Groups: alt.support.depression Subject: i'd give advice From: Michael A. Ball Date: Tues, Mar 28 2006 7:46 pm On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:37:36 +0100, "humble.life" wrote: but i'm not out of the depths so i wouldn't be a science that proves itself Go ahead; give your opinions. Most of the advice given here is from folks who are still struggling. Don't take everything as the gospel, but there are some very insightful people in this group. ---------- Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael Ball Date: Mon, Mar 13 2000 12:00 am "Rage"? "Again"? I wonder if a lot of folks get angry at their therapists, and why? My therapist used to try to convince me that Michael Ball is not so bad. That annoyed me so much! I'm not sure what bothered me most: the fact that I couldn't seem to convince him of the truth; or the thought that he was trying to trick me; or something entirely different. He was a nice guy, but I just couldn't get him to see the real me. Ha! If I had, he might have stopped wasting his effort! We eventually began working on his problems. :-) Misplaced aggression? Is that why we tend to attack some of those who want to "help" us? ---------- Groups: alt.support.depression From: Michael A. Ball Date: Sun, Mar 14 2004 6:25 pm On 14 Mar 2004 13:48:35 -0800, (crysalis) wrote: [...]Tomorrow I see the Dr. I hope they tell me something good. [...] I hope he tells you "something good" too! If you were asked to list the top three good things you'd like for him to tell you, what would they be? I put myself in your shoes for a minute and discovered that question is not as simple as it sounds. We don't always know how to heal the pain or even what is causing the pain: we only know that we hurt. Maybe your doctor will tell you that it is not your skin that you want to escape, but everything inside of that skin" your..."self"! I'm reminded of a time in my life when I applied to enter a sex reassignment program. Fortunately, during the initial evaluation process, it was determined that I wasn't transsexual, and didn't want to be a woman: I just didn't want to be Michael Ball. That was a day of considerable relief, but also one of great sadness and hopelessness. There would be no Andrea Beck, and for the time being, no escape from MB. Best wishes tomorrow. I hope you'll tell us how things went Michael A day without recoil is like a day without sunshine! ------------- a balance of defending and accepting would be my personal goal for Dallas. I have a Chow Chow, and I don't want Tang to accept just anyone. LUCKY FOR THAT otherWIZE you'd MURDER him. Please, keep us posted. This is going to be a great learning experience! A dog's life is too short; their only fault really. Groups: alt.support.depression Subject: Why do People seem to Have an Orgasm making snide remarks?? It Makes my skin crawl. Rosena From: Michael A. Ball Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 11:15 am Email: Michael A. Ball On 19 Mar 2006 14:52:39 -0800, wrote: ...I know. It isn't the person, as much as the way humans in general can't resist making jabs at people if some opportunity presents itself. I was talking about Claudia who I do not get along with anyway. And whenever she makes a remark in anything related to me it makes me livid. But . . . I am also antsy today. Always consider the source. Whether they are written or spoken words, negative or positive, always consider who it was that wrote or spoke those words. Ask yourself if that person is even worth listening to. Decide whether or not their views are worth the time of day--much less being upset about. Personally, I don't mind snide remarks at all. Whatever it takes. ------------ "WHATEVER IT TAKES," felloHOWE dog lovers. In Love And Light, I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours, The World's Cruelest Trainer Jerry Howe, The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply A-M-A-Z-I-N-G *M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C* *G-R-A-N-D* *M-A-S-T-E-R* Puppy, Child, Pussy, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey And Horsey Wizard {) ; ~ ) HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU {} ; ~ ) |
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