Hello,
Our beautiful 11year old Mastiff cross has been diagnosed with Lingual
Haemangiosarcoma.
It appeared as a tumour on his tongue of which he has had a piece
removed. The pathology results proved the tumour was the primary, not
a secondary as first suspected by the vet.
Apparently he would still have the cancer cells floating around in his
blood, but a blood test won't show anything until it is too late.
I was wondering if any of you may have an idea of how we could purify
his blood, to slow down/kill the cancer???
We live in Cairns Australia and only have limited resources available.
For example an animal would have to fly to Brisbane to have
Chemotherapy.
We don't want him to suffer, but thought that you may know of some new
medication that could prolong his life while still giving him quality.
I must say since he has had the tumour removed he has had a new
outlook on life and is quite energetic and happy.
I found this website very helpful when he was diagnosed with an auto
immune disease 2 years ago. This may have been when he contracted the
cancer??
I look forward to a reply. Thank you.
Kate

On Sep 8, 9:01*pm, kate wrote:
Hello,
Our beautiful 11year old Mastiff cross has been diagnosed with Lingual
Haemangiosarcoma.
It appeared as a tumour on his tongue of which he has had a piece
removed. *The pathology results proved the tumour was the primary, not
a secondary as first suspected by the vet.
Apparently he would still have the cancer cells floating around in his
blood, but a blood test won't show anything until it is too late.
I was wondering if any of you may have an idea of how we could purify
his blood, to slow down/kill the cancer???
We live in Cairns Australia and only have limited resources available.
For example an animal would have to fly to Brisbane to have
Chemotherapy.
We don't want him to suffer, but thought that you may know of some new
medication that could prolong his life while still giving him quality.
I must say since he has had the tumour removed he has had a new
outlook on life and is quite energetic and happy.
I found this website very helpful when he was diagnosed with an auto
immune disease 2 years ago. This may have been when he contracted the
cancer??
I look forward to a reply. *Thank you.
Kate

Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.
Kate

In article
,
kate wrote:


Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.

Your veterinarian is your best resource. I tried Googling this type of
cancer, but managed to crash my computer in the process, so I'm not
doing that again!

I wish you luck. Accepting that some conditions are fatal is a hard
pill to swallow. What did the vet recommend? I assume adequate margins
were achieved? Does the vet think chemo or radiation is
warranted/desirable/helpful?

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

kate wrote:
On Sep 8, 9:01 pm, kate wrote:
Hello,
Our beautiful 11year old Mastiff cross has been diagnosed with Lingual
Haemangiosarcoma.
It appeared as a tumour on his tongue of which he has had a piece
removed. The pathology results proved the tumour was the primary, not
a secondary as first suspected by the vet.
Apparently he would still have the cancer cells floating around in his
blood, but a blood test won't show anything until it is too late.
I was wondering if any of you may have an idea of how we could purify
his blood, to slow down/kill the cancer???
We live in Cairns Australia and only have limited resources available.
For example an animal would have to fly to Brisbane to have
Chemotherapy.
We don't want him to suffer, but thought that you may know of some new
medication that could prolong his life while still giving him quality.
I must say since he has had the tumour removed he has had a new
outlook on life and is quite energetic and happy.
I found this website very helpful when he was diagnosed with an auto
immune disease 2 years ago. This may have been when he contracted the
cancer??
I look forward to a reply. Thank you.
Kate

Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.
Kate

I'm sorry to hear about your dog; it's always hard when you get
this kind of diagnosis. My GSD was diagnosed with oral squamous
cell carcinoma at 7.5 and lived another 3.5 years, with surgery,
chemo and radiation. The treatments aren't as hard on dogs as
they are on humans; they use lower doses/body weight. But at the
time we lived 20 minutes away from a specialist vet hospital,
which had an excellent oncologist on staff. I don't know how we
would have proceeded if we'd lived far from a treatment facility.

Your dog's age is a factor, too. If Dylan had been 11 at
diagnosis, would we have opted to keep her comfortable but not
treat as aggressively? Again, I don't know, but I think that's
likely.

I think your best bet is to have a frank discussion with your vet
about your options, and to do some research yourself. If you
google on both "lingual haemangiosarcoma" and "lingual
hemangiosarcoma" you will find quite a few articles. (The second
one is the American spelling of hemangiosarcoma.)

I know it's tough, and I hope you find some answers.

FurPaw

--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dog.

"kate" wrote in message
...
On Sep 8, 9:01 pm, kate wrote:
Hello,
Our beautiful 11year old Mastiff cross has been diagnosed with Lingual
Haemangiosarcoma.
It appeared as a tumour on his tongue of which he has had a piece
removed. The pathology results proved the tumour was the primary, not
a secondary as first suspected by the vet.
Apparently he would still have the cancer cells floating around in his
blood, but a blood test won't show anything until it is too late.
I was wondering if any of you may have an idea of how we could purify
his blood, to slow down/kill the cancer???
We live in Cairns Australia and only have limited resources available.
For example an animal would have to fly to Brisbane to have
Chemotherapy.
We don't want him to suffer, but thought that you may know of some new
medication that could prolong his life while still giving him quality.
I must say since he has had the tumour removed he has had a new
outlook on life and is quite energetic and happy.
I found this website very helpful when he was diagnosed with an auto
immune disease 2 years ago. This may have been when he contracted the
cancer??
I look forward to a reply. Thank you.
Kate

Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.
Kate

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Back around 1980-1984 I was involved in a project that used hyperthermia to
treat cancer. I developed part of the temperature sensing and controlling
equipment that regulated the temperature of a patient's blood by means of a
shunt in the femoral artery, which also had an external tube that connected
to a stream of water that was adjusted to control the temperature. The
patient was sedated during the process, and the body was essentially made
to incur a fever that was maintained for a period of time, and then
returned to normal. The cancer cells and tumors apparently did not tolerate
heat as well as normal tissues, so they would die while healthy parts would
survive. The research was being done by a Dr. Parks at the medical center
in Jackson, MS, but I heard that he died and the project was abandoned,
although there had been some remarkable remissions and cures with
terminally ill patients. Of course, these were human patients, but when I
was at the hospital testing the equipment, the doctor's daughter showed me
a shunt that was installed in a dog. I found the following links using
www.dogpile.com:

http://www.labbies.com/cancer3.htm
http://www.petcancercenter.org/Cance...erthermia.html
http://hyperthermia.mc.duke.edu/stories.htm
http://www.irishwolfhounds.org/cancer.htm

I found the patent that was granted to Dr. Parks. It is 4,298,006, dated
November 3, 1981, and the assignee was REAC (Research Against Cancer),
which was the organization I worked with. A direct link is:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/4,298,006

Or just go to http://patft.uspto.gov/ and search on hyperthermia for other
patents. Maybe you will find a research hospital in your area that is
working on this method.

There were some rumors that this very promising form of treatment was
suppressed because of pressure from big drug companies who are making lots
of money from their products, which they would lose if an inexpensive and
effective alternative methods were discovered and used. That would be a
terrible breach of ethics for the medical profession, but the drug
companies may not have the same goals as doctors who truly want to cure
their patients, rather than make money on extended and expensive
treatments.

I wish you the best of luck with your dog's condition. My dog Muttley looks
like he may have some Mastiff heritage, and I have heard a lot of good
things about them. I met someone who used to breed Bull Mastiffs, and he
remarked how much Muttley looked like some of his dogs, except he does not
have the characteristic wrinked face, and he is not as large as the average
Mastiff.

www.smart.net/~pstech/Muttley

Paul and Muttley

On Sep 11, 11:01*pm, Janet Boss
wrote:
In article
,

*kate wrote:

Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. *We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.

Your veterinarian is your best resource. *I tried Googling this type of
cancer, but managed to crash my computer in the process, so I'm not
doing that again!

I wish you luck. *Accepting that some conditions are fatal is a hard
pill to swallow. *What did the vet recommend? *I assume adequate margins
were achieved? *Does the vet think chemo or radiation is
warranted/desirable/helpful?

--
Janet Bosswww.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

No the vet basically said we got it all with the tongue surgery and
off you go!!! We can't have chemo where we live. We would have to
fly him to Brisbane 1600 kilometres away.

On Sep 13, 12:16*am, FurPaw wrote:
kate wrote:
On Sep 8, 9:01 pm, kate wrote:
Hello,
Our beautiful 11year old Mastiff cross has been diagnosed with Lingual
Haemangiosarcoma.
It appeared as a tumour on his tongue of which he has had a piece
removed. *The pathology results proved the tumour was the primary, not
a secondary as first suspected by the vet.
Apparently he would still have the cancer cells floating around in his
blood, but a blood test won't show anything until it is too late.
I was wondering if any of you may have an idea of how we could purify
his blood, to slow down/kill the cancer???
We live in Cairns Australia and only have limited resources available.
For example an animal would have to fly to Brisbane to have
Chemotherapy.
We don't want him to suffer, but thought that you may know of some new
medication that could prolong his life while still giving him quality.
I must say since he has had the tumour removed he has had a new
outlook on life and is quite energetic and happy.
I found this website very helpful when he was diagnosed with an auto
immune disease 2 years ago. This may have been when he contracted the
cancer??
I look forward to a reply. *Thank you.
Kate

Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. *We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.
Kate

I'm sorry to hear about your dog; it's always hard when you get
this kind of diagnosis. *My GSD was diagnosed with oral squamous
cell carcinoma at 7.5 and lived another 3.5 years, with surgery,
chemo and radiation. *The treatments aren't as hard on dogs as
they are on humans; they use lower doses/body weight. *But at the
time we lived 20 minutes away from a specialist vet hospital,
which had an excellent oncologist on staff. *I don't know how we
would have proceeded if we'd lived far from a treatment facility.

Your dog's age is a factor, too. *If Dylan had been 11 at
diagnosis, would we have opted to keep her comfortable but not
treat as aggressively? *Again, I don't know, but I think that's
likely.

I think your best bet is to have a frank discussion with your vet
about your options, and to do some research yourself. *If you
google on both "lingual haemangiosarcoma" and "lingual
hemangiosarcoma" you will find quite a few articles. *(The second
one is the American spelling of hemangiosarcoma.)

I know it's tough, and I hope you find some answers.

FurPaw

--
The plural of anecdote is not proof.

To reply, unleash the dog.- Hide quoted text -

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Thankyou for your answer. Yes I have since googled and found some
websites.

On Sep 13, 6:15*am, "Paul E. Schoen" wrote:
"kate" wrote in message

...
On Sep 8, 9:01 pm, kate wrote:





Hello,
Our beautiful 11year old Mastiff cross has been diagnosed with Lingual
Haemangiosarcoma.
It appeared as a tumour on his tongue of which he has had a piece
removed. The pathology results proved the tumour was the primary, not
a secondary as first suspected by the vet.
Apparently he would still have the cancer cells floating around in his
blood, but a blood test won't show anything until it is too late.
I was wondering if any of you may have an idea of how we could purify
his blood, to slow down/kill the cancer???
We live in Cairns Australia and only have limited resources available.
For example an animal would have to fly to Brisbane to have
Chemotherapy.
We don't want him to suffer, but thought that you may know of some new
medication that could prolong his life while still giving him quality.
I must say since he has had the tumour removed he has had a new
outlook on life and is quite energetic and happy.
I found this website very helpful when he was diagnosed with an auto
immune disease 2 years ago. This may have been when he contracted the
cancer??
I look forward to a reply. Thank you.
Kate

Does anyone have a solution or an idea of anything we can do. *We are
desperate to keep our beloved boy going. It has come as such a sudden
shock.
Kate

================================================== =========================*=

Back around 1980-1984 I was involved in a project that used hyperthermia to
treat cancer. I developed part of the temperature sensing and controlling
equipment that regulated the temperature of a patient's blood by means of a
shunt in the femoral artery, which also had an external tube that connected
to a stream of water that was adjusted to control the temperature. The
patient was sedated during the process, and the body was essentially made
to incur a fever that was maintained for a period of time, and then
returned to normal. The cancer cells and tumors apparently did not tolerate
heat as well as normal tissues, so they would die while healthy parts would
survive. The research was being done by a Dr. Parks at the medical center
in Jackson, MS, but I heard that he died and the project was abandoned,
although there had been some remarkable remissions and cures with
terminally ill patients. Of course, these were human patients, but when I
was at the hospital testing the equipment, the doctor's daughter showed me
a shunt that was installed in a dog. I found the following links usingwww..dogpile.com:

http://www.labbies.com/cancer3.htmht...org/cancer.htm

I found the patent that was granted to Dr. Parks. It is 4,298,006, dated
November 3, 1981, and the assignee was REAC (Research Against Cancer),
which was the organization I worked with. A direct link is:http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...ct2=HITOFF&d=P...

Or just go tohttp://patft.uspto.gov/and search on hyperthermia for other
patents. Maybe you will find a research hospital in your area that is
working on this method.

There were some rumors that this very promising form of treatment was
suppressed because of pressure from big drug companies who are making lots
of money from their products, which they would lose if an inexpensive and
effective alternative methods were discovered and used. That would be a
terrible breach of ethics for the medical profession, but the drug
companies may not have the same goals as doctors who truly want to cure
their patients, rather than make money on extended and expensive
treatments.

I wish you the best of luck with your dog's condition. My dog Muttley looks
like he may have some Mastiff heritage, and I have heard a lot of good
things about them. I met someone who used to breed Bull Mastiffs, and he
remarked how much Muttley looked like some of his dogs, except he does not
have the characteristic wrinked face, and he is not as large as the average
Mastiff.

www.smart.net/~pstech/Muttley

Paul and Muttley- Hide quoted text -

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Thank you for your reply Paul,
Yes they are the best dogs.
Our Samson sound like Muttley, not so big and not the wrinkley face.
He is so strong, yet so incredibly gentle and understanding.
I will check out those websites.
Thanks so much.
Kate