Our dog needs his teeth cleaned and we're considering trying the technique
that does not require anesthesia. This method is quite a bit less expensive
and we think it would be easier on our dog too, but we wonder about
effectiveness. It's understandable that the job can be done more thoroughly
if the dog is anesthetized, but is the alternative acceptable in terms of
ensuring the dog's health?

Our dog needs his teeth cleaned and we're considering trying the technique
that does not require anesthesia. This method is quite a bit less
expensive and we think it would be easier on our dog too, but we wonder
about effectiveness. It's understandable that the job can be done more
thoroughly if the dog is anesthetized, but is the alternative acceptable
in terms of ensuring the dog's health?

I have never heard of a canine dental prophy done without anesthesia. I
cannot imagine that the restrained dog would be accepting enough for a
proper scaling to be done without it being exceptionally uncomfortable for
the dog and unsafe for the technician/doctor.

how bad are the teeth? a lot of people on a list i'm on use Petzlife
gel or spray. Couple of weeks of regular usage the tarter is gone.
Currently i use DentAcetic gel from my vet. After about a week i
could pick off the tarter on his fangs

Sharon Too wrote:
Our dog needs his teeth cleaned and we're considering trying the technique
that does not require anesthesia. This method is quite a bit less
expensive and we think it would be easier on our dog too, but we wonder
about effectiveness. It's understandable that the job can be done more
thoroughly if the dog is anesthetized, but is the alternative acceptable
in terms of ensuring the dog's health?

I have never heard of a canine dental prophy done without anesthesia. I
cannot imagine that the restrained dog would be accepting enough for a
proper scaling to be done without it being exceptionally uncomfortable for
the dog and unsafe for the technician/doctor.

http://www.petzlifedirect.com/ I think amazon might have it cheaper

Tracey K wrote:
how bad are the teeth? a lot of people on a list i'm on use Petzlife
gel or spray. Couple of weeks of regular usage the tarter is gone.
Currently i use DentAcetic gel from my vet. After about a week i
could pick off the tarter on his fangs

Sharon Too wrote:
Our dog needs his teeth cleaned and we're considering trying the technique
that does not require anesthesia. This method is quite a bit less
expensive and we think it would be easier on our dog too, but we wonder
about effectiveness. It's understandable that the job can be done more
thoroughly if the dog is anesthetized, but is the alternative acceptable
in terms of ensuring the dog's health?

I have never heard of a canine dental prophy done without anesthesia. I
cannot imagine that the restrained dog would be accepting enough for a
proper scaling to be done without it being exceptionally uncomfortable for
the dog and unsafe for the technician/doctor.

how bad are the teeth? a lot of people on a list i'm on use Petzlife
gel or spray. Couple of weeks of regular usage the tarter is gone.
Currently i use DentAcetic gel from my vet. After about a week i
could pick off the tarter on his fangs

Picking off the tartar on your own could introduce bacteria into the dog's
blood stream. A professional scaling goes beyond superficial tartar.

In article ,
Tracey K wrote:
how bad are the teeth? a lot of people on a list i'm on use Petzlife
gel or spray. Couple of weeks of regular usage the tarter is gone.
Currently i use DentAcetic gel from my vet. After about a week i
could pick off the tarter on his fangs

After his first cleaning, we've used two products that have good consumer
reviews for preventing plaque in our Maltese:

Plaque-Off which you add to the drinking water (contains some kind of
stabilized chlorinated compound that inhibits bacterial growth)

Perio-Support which is a powder you add to (or sprinkle on) food (contains
zeolites - I assume these act as a mild abrasive during chewing - and some
bacterial byproduct that inhibit plaque and reduce digestive odors)

Really its best procedure for cleaning teeth of any predator. I see the video of whole procedure in national geographic. Is it really cheap. If is it so i would clean my doggy teeth. Can any specialist tell me why teeth cleaning of our dogs are necessary.

Great answer Jerry!

The schools teach the vets to feed kibble so it ruins their teeth and
the vets make money fixing the damage.


Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Resear ch_Laboratory wrote:
HOWEDY Solitude,

"solitude" wrote in message
...
Victek;366058 Wrote:
Our dog needs his teeth cleaned and we're considering
trying the technique that does not require anesthesia.

If victek wasn't a dog abusin coward his dog wouldn't FEAR
havin his teeth cleaned at the vet WITHOUT anesthesia {}: ~ (

The ignorameHOWES can't even get his dog to stay in
his own HOWES withHOWET GOIN INSANE {}: ~ (

This method is quite a bit less expensive

veterinary malpracticioners SELL "dental prophy" as sharon
too prefers to call the SCAM they're TAUGHT in vet school.

and we think it would be easier on our dog too,

Of curse.

but we wonder about effectiveness.

If you TRAIN your dog to accept bein handled at the
vet there AIN'T NO PROBLEM for "effectiveness" durin
dental cleanining withHOWET anesthesia.

The PROBLEM is, veterinary malpracticioners FEAR dogs
and won't work on their teeth unless they're MUZZLED --
Catch22, eh??

It's understandable that the job can be done
more thoroughly if the dog is anesthetized,

CITES PLEASE?

but is the alternative acceptable in terms
of ensuring the dog's health?

Of curse. veterinary "dental prophy" is a SCAM.

Really its best procedure for cleaning teeth of any predator.

Dogs an kats DO NOT NEED dental work UNLESS
they're bein fed GARBAGE commercial dog foods,
have been surgically sexually mutilated, vaccinated
annually and receive monthly parasite toxins.

I see the video of whole procedure in national geographic.
Is it really cheap. If is it so i would clean my doggy teeth.

It's TRUE. HOWEver, the veterinary malpracticioners OBJECT
to it on accHOWENTA it COSTS THEM MONEY.

Can any specialist tell me why
teeth cleaning of our dogs are necessary.

That's EZ~!

veterinary universities GET PAID BY pharmacutical
companies to test their new toxic veterinary proceedures,
mutilations, and pharmacuticals.

IgnorameHOWES veterinary students like dale atkin *(well,
actually his grandparents) BUY toxic veterinary malpractice
instruction from big pharma and government subsidized
veterinary universities.

Gullible citizens BUY the toxic veterinary malpractices
and insane mutilation services TAUGHT at big pharma /
government subsidized veterinary schools to ignorameHOWES
lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASES like dale an sharon
toos' veterinary malpracticioner husband and *J.Q. Pubic*
fall victim to their advertising and pupaganda schemes.

And THAT completes the circuit {}'; ~ )

Oh, but only till your dog is DEAD or DEATHLY ILL.

THEN it starts all over again JUST LIKE brand new as
they TRY to SELL you more toxic veterinary malpractices
to CURE their IATROGENIC DIS-EASES {}: ~ (

Dogs an kats DO NOT NEED dental cleaning if they AIN'T
BEIN FED GARBAGE commercial dog foods with
carbohydrates and TOXIC veterinary malpractices like
surgical sexual mutilations, deathly annual multi-toxin
vaccinations, and useless monthly parasite treatments.

Here's a comment from a veterinary dental tech:

"I have to STRONGLY DISAGREE.

I am in the process of becoming dental certified,
and I think non-anesthesia dentals are great.
(although i do think animals should get RADS
around 2 in case of any diciduous or non-eruptive
teeth)

Not only for the high risk patients (heart disease,
murmers, liver/kidney disease), but also for any
routine dental... why not? If an animal can get
the same treatment it needs without anesthisia
then why not?

Nowaday veterinarians are recommending dentals every 6 MONTHS!

For most animals living to 12-15 yrs old that would be
going under anesthesia 22-26 times in their life time!

The non-anesthetic dental technicians are very
knowledgable and patient, with what they do.

Most have the new technology necessary to have
an effective/safe cleaning done, (like the ceramic
tip ultrasonic cleaner ,generating no heat to the
tip, and minimizing the amount of water/chlorohex
solution needed to adequetly clean)

The key to the treatment is patience... most canines /
felines that receive the treatment eventually get use to
it and simply sit back and relax as we would at the dentist.

Most people think of non-anestheitc dental as some
one pinning down animal and fighting it until it surrends,
but it is completly opposite.

During the procedure the technician 1. Charts the mouth
2. Probes 3. Subgingival scaling 4. Ultrasonic scaling 5.
Polish 6. Floride 7. Chlorohex and smile!

If a technician sees any abnormallities or believes the
animal would be a better canidate for anesthetia they
will report it to the Veterinarian.

What anesthesia free dentistry dose [sic] is like no other.

Im not saying being under anesthesia is unsafe, if
using the right medications and monitroing properly
it is 100% effective.

But if there is not a need to Do x-rays, have extractions,
or any other kind of dental surgery then why?

So, next time you go to the dentist for your routine
dental, ask what they do when they have a difficult
child patient. Im sure he wont say "Put them under
Anesthesia!""

Suzanne CVT



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solitude

chardonnay9 wrote:

The schools teach the vets to feed kibble so it ruins their teeth and
the vets make money fixing the damage.

Making things up again I see.

To any new posters. Chardonnay and Jerry are our two resident loons.
Please ignore.

"solitude" wrote in message
...

Victek;366058 Wrote:
Our dog needs his teeth cleaned and we're considering trying the
technique
that does not require anesthesia. This method is quite a bit less
expensive
and we think it would be easier on our dog too, but we wonder about
effectiveness. It's understandable that the job can be done more
thoroughly
if the dog is anesthetized, but is the alternative acceptable in terms
of
ensuring the dog's health?

My gut feeling is that they are probably more cosmetic than functional at
the stage you're probably at (although I don't know because I can't see the
dog).


Really its best procedure for cleaning teeth of any predator. I see the
video of whole procedure in national geographic. Is it really cheap. If
is it so i would clean my doggy teeth. Can any specialist tell me why
teeth cleaning of our dogs are necessary.

I imagine you're thinking that a 'wild dog'/'wolf' doesn't get his teeth
cleaned, so why should a house dog? Is that you're argument?

If that's you're argument, the answer is simple. Your dog has a very
different life, and body shape than a wolf/'wild dog'/coyote.

Diet is different. Most kibbles (and certainly soft foods) don't provide a
mechanical scraping of the the teeth. Bones do. I'm not saying bones are
best, and that you don't have to be careful with them, but recognize that
they may help with a mechanical scraping of the teeth.

Mouth conformation is different. Some dogs have a lot more trouble than
others simply because of the positioning of the teeth in their mouth (this
is opinion, not based on any research I've seen).

Your dog will hopefully live a lot longer than a coyote does on average, and
therefore has a longer period of time to develop problems.

That being said, some vets do over prescribe dentals in my opinion. (I've
seen industry reps tell people dogs need a yearly prophylactic dental, this
is overkill IMO). Things to look at if you're not sure.

1. What do the teeth look like visually?
2. What do the gums look like? (any redness along the gums, inflamation)
3. What do the lips look like?
4. What does the breath smell like?

Ask your vet to point out to you why they think your dog needs a dental.

Dentals are a very important area to keep your animal comfortable and
healthy. It's amazing the difference a dental can make in the life of an
animal that really needs one. We had a cat that I'd been trying to get my
parents to take in for a dental for nearly a year. They were worried the vet
would pull all the cat's teeth, so they resisted. Eventually I got them to
bring him in. They did pull most of his teeth (I think he has about 6 left).
That night, you could tell almost immediately that he was feeling *A LOT*
better. This is a story I've heard again, and again talking with people in
the park.

One lady even told me she was about ready to euthanize her dog, but the vet
convinced her a dental was good idea. Two years later, the dog was going
strong.

So, in summary,

dentals: amazing when needed, sometimes over prescribed.
done when awake: Unknown. Possibly just cosmetic.
Why some dogs need them: They aren't wolves.

Dale