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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
A while back (Dec 5) I posted that my golden retriever had been diagnosed
with cutaneous lymphoma and asked if anyone had any experience with this disease. I got a few helpful responses but most of the dialogue was responses to chardonnay9 and her view that vets are evil and magic herbs will cure anything. I noticed that on Jan 16 J.Lef asked a question about cancer of the spleen and the same thing happened. I think almost all of the responses were directed to the first person to respond to his post - chardonnay9. I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. On another note after more detailed skin biopsy reviews my dog's cutaneous lymphoma was determined to a be a recently identified form that progresses very slowly. There appears to be no internal organ advance. She's just started on a single drug protocol - Lomustine (ceeNU) once every 4 weeks and appears to be handling the chemo quite well. Oleander Soup didn't seem to have enough "magic" for me. |
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"Nitram" wrote in message news:mfudl.6339$Db2.2021@edtnps83... A while back (Dec 5) I posted that my golden retriever had been diagnosed with cutaneous lymphoma and asked if anyone had any experience with this disease. I got a few helpful responses but most of the dialogue was responses to chardonnay9 and her view that vets are evil and magic herbs will cure anything. I noticed that on Jan 16 J.Lef asked a question about cancer of the spleen and the same thing happened. I think almost all of the responses were directed to the first person to respond to his post - chardonnay9. I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. On another note after more detailed skin biopsy reviews my dog's cutaneous lymphoma was determined to a be a recently identified form that progresses very slowly. There appears to be no internal organ advance. She's just started on a single drug protocol - Lomustine (ceeNU) once every 4 weeks and appears to be handling the chemo quite well. Oleander Soup didn't seem to have enough "magic" for me. I wish you and your dog a good recovery. I know I won't be the first, or last, to say that if everyone with any sense blocked Chard, then the truly needy and desperate people who may post here asking life and death questions might think she is giving good advice, and dogs will die. Anyone who listens to her and follows her advice, will most likely end up with a dead dog. THAT'S why people keep responding to her. We don't like to read her crap anymore than you do, but it's become a public service now. Until she wises up, and realizes that if everyone in the whole group thinks you're wrong, except for the resident insane person, then chances are most likely you're wrong. The fact that she believes everything the crazy guy says is very telling about her judgement. She's so tunnel-visioned and blinded by her own bullshit, she just can't wrap her little head around how totally wrong she is. Until then, we're stuck with her. Maybe she'll follow her own advice and drink oleander soup. Who knows? I sure don't wish death on her, but she seems to have no compunction about not wishing the same on anyone else, or their pets. If she would just shut up, listen and learn, maybe the group wouldn't have to respond to her idiocy when folks like you are looking for well-reasoned, experienced advice. -- Phyrie Kiba the Cav's Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/phyrie/...758930/detail/ |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
Nitram wrote:
I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. We've discussed it. *sigh* The general consensus seems to have been that there's a significant danger that someone might believe that her advice should be taken seriously, and that's why many of us haven't KF'd her yet. It's definitely tempting to do so, though. On another note after more detailed skin biopsy reviews my dog's cutaneous lymphoma was determined to a be a recently identified form that progresses very slowly. There appears to be no internal organ advance. She's just started on a single drug protocol - Lomustine (ceeNU) once every 4 weeks and appears to be handling the chemo quite well. I'm glad that your dog's outlook sounds to be so positive. I'm afraid that I haven't any experience with lymphoma (cutaneous or otherwise) so haven't anything helpful to share - but do know that my good wishes are with you both. Dianne |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
In article mfudl.6339$Db2.2021@edtnps83, Nitram wrote:
I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. This is a tough one. She's definitely extremely disruptive. The problem is that while she would have been killfiled long ago if she were just an asshole, she gives "advice" that can kill dogs and that's harder to ignore. I don't have experience with lymphoma, but it sounds like a much more positive situation than you thought at the time of your first post, and I hold good thoughts for you and your dog. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just
put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. Because she hijacks every single thread and posts disturbing, wrong medical advice. The regulars here aren't comfortable just looking the other way anymore. |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
On second thought you guys are right.
Better to have her out in the open. "Nitram" wrote in message news:mfudl.6339$Db2.2021@edtnps83... A while back (Dec 5) I posted that my golden retriever had been diagnosed with cutaneous lymphoma and asked if anyone had any experience with this disease. I got a few helpful responses but most of the dialogue was responses to chardonnay9 and her view that vets are evil and magic herbs will cure anything. I noticed that on Jan 16 J.Lef asked a question about cancer of the spleen and the same thing happened. I think almost all of the responses were directed to the first person to respond to his post - chardonnay9. I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. On another note after more detailed skin biopsy reviews my dog's cutaneous lymphoma was determined to a be a recently identified form that progresses very slowly. There appears to be no internal organ advance. She's just started on a single drug protocol - Lomustine (ceeNU) once every 4 weeks and appears to be handling the chemo quite well. Oleander Soup didn't seem to have enough "magic" for me. |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
Phyrie wrote:
"Nitram" wrote in message news:mfudl.6339$Db2.2021@edtnps83... A while back (Dec 5) I posted that my golden retriever had been diagnosed with cutaneous lymphoma and asked if anyone had any experience with this disease. I got a few helpful responses but most of the dialogue was responses to chardonnay9 and her view that vets are evil and magic herbs will cure anything. I noticed that on Jan 16 J.Lef asked a question about cancer of the spleen and the same thing happened. I think almost all of the responses were directed to the first person to respond to his post - chardonnay9. I'm sure you all have valuable experience to share so why don't you just put her in your blocked sender list or killfile and get her out of the group. On another note after more detailed skin biopsy reviews my dog's cutaneous lymphoma was determined to a be a recently identified form that progresses very slowly. There appears to be no internal organ advance. She's just started on a single drug protocol - Lomustine (ceeNU) once every 4 weeks and appears to be handling the chemo quite well. Oleander Soup didn't seem to have enough "magic" for me. I wish you and your dog a good recovery. I know I won't be the first, or last, to say that if everyone with any sense blocked Chard, then the truly needy and desperate people who may post here asking life and death questions might think she is giving good advice, and dogs will die. Anyone who listens to her and follows her advice, will most likely end up with a dead dog. It really scares all of you that so many people think like me doesn't it? And more curious people switch to a natural way of eating and treating their pets as well as themselves. They do it because it works. They do it because they care. Some do it because they've been doing it for decades. This is no flash in the pan. Trying to single me out as odd or capable of killing an animal only serves to show how out of touch you all are. I'm one of an army of people fed up with problems caused by the pet food industry and vets who don't have a clue. Fortunately even some vets are actually looking into natural methods and I can't wait till even more do so. This is the only place online that I've seen people so much in the dark about nutrition, harmful drugs and insecticides. I guess jumping on me is your only recourse other than opening your eyes and seeing what is in the near future. You are a poor reminder of old ways that didn't work. |
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chardonnay9 wrote: It really scares all of you that so many people think like me doesn't it? As someone in the sciences, it scares me that anybody thinks like you. Fortunately you seem to be the only one here ("so many," my skinny white butt). -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
It really scares all of you that so many people think like me doesn't it?
You're an army of one. Look around. You have no one here to call friend and it's you're own doing. I always tell my children, "You choose your consequences." They're mature enough to get it. We're not scared of you. You really are oblivious and narcisistic to think that you're the only right one and everyone else here is wrong? As I said before, you need help. |
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Re chardonnay9 the thread crasher
chardonnay9 wrote:
I'm one of an army of people fed up with problems caused by the pet food industry and vets who don't have a clue. Fortunately even some vets are actually looking into natural methods and I can't wait till even more do so. It's one thing to be disgusted with some pet food manufacturers, those folks in the FDA and DA who are more interested in politics than food safety, and those Chinese people who thought it would be OK to add melamine to mimic higher protein content in wheat gluten. It's a whole 'nuther thing to eschew good science in the name of using "natural methods." It's as if you believe that "natural" equates to "non-toxic." (Have an Amanita virosa, m'dear?) As if you believe that "traditional medicine" is by definition superior to modern medicine. Your "studies" of "natural methods" and "traditional medicine" don't go deep enough for you to be able to distinguish between effective practices vs. those that are based solely on superstition and tradition and are at best ineffective, at worst themselves harmful. If you stopped trying to play vet, stopped "prescribing" to people who post here, stopped preaching your one-note sermon, stopped acting like a True Believer, stopped discounting any evidence that contradicts your opinion, and started getting a real education (as opposed to generalizing from all the anecdotes you read on "alternative medicine" web sites) you might get a better reception. FurPaw -- Don't believe everything that you think. To reply, unleash the dog. |
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