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Old April 5th 09, 12:17 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
chardonnay9
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"I have recently been introduced to several scientific studies linking
vaccine damage to pancreatitis. I have to admit that this connection
makes sense to me. We used to blame high fat foods for pancreatitis in
our pets but we are seeing an alarming increase in pancreatitis in our
patients even those eating a low fat prescription diet. These dogs don’t
fit our “pancreatitis risk group”. What is going on? It seems the one
common denominator is recent or repeated vaccination. The studies show
that histamine release triggered during vaccination causes damage to the
pancreas.

"I can honestly say that I have never seen pancreatitis in a minimally
vaccinated or non-vaccinated dog. I do believe that these study results
hold water and should be addressed by the veterinary community."

http://drmarcia.wordpress.com/2009/0...-and-vaccines/
  #2  
Old April 5th 09, 02:31 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Melinda Shore
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Default Pancreatitis

In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
http://drmarcia.wordpress.com/2009/0...-and-vaccines/


Oooooohhh! A blog - authoritative!

So I go to the blog to learn more about these "authoritative
studies" only to find that she doesn't cite any - not one.
And I'm curious about her own veterinary background and she
doesn't describe it. Then, I do a search on the terms
pancreatitis vaccine
and find some papers linking pancreatitis to Hepatitis
vaccines, HPV vaccines, mumps vaccines, and Gardasil. Dogs
are not vaccinated for hepatitis or HPV (duh) and I didn't
know if they're administered Gardasil ever, and found no
descriptions of dogs being given Gardasil. Then, I search
pancreatitis vaccine dogs
and get a bunch of hits, a few of which are wackos asking
biased questions ("Pancreatitis is becoming much more common
as we weaken our dogs with too many vaccines") but no
research - NONE - establishing a link between dog
vaccinations and pancreatitis.

So, you've cited someone who doesn't cite anyone and doesn't
actually appear to have any expertise, and when I go and
find more I find not one instance of a vaccine that's
actually being given to dogs being linked to pancreatitis.

This is a pretty good illustration of why your posts aren't
convincing. There's no real evidence to support your
arguments. You don't do your homework.
--
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
  #3  
Old April 5th 09, 02:43 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.dogs.breeds,rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.rescue,alt.med.veterinary
Charley Sante
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Default Pancreatitis


"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
http://drmarcia.wordpress.com/2009/0...-and-vaccines/


Oooooohhh! A blog - authoritative!

So I go to the blog to learn more about these "authoritative
studies" only to find that she doesn't cite any - not one.
And I'm curious about her own veterinary background and she
doesn't describe it. Then, I do a search on the terms
pancreatitis vaccine
and find some papers linking pancreatitis to Hepatitis
vaccines, HPV vaccines, mumps vaccines, and Gardasil. Dogs
are not vaccinated for hepatitis or HPV (duh) and I didn't
know if they're administered Gardasil ever, and found no
descriptions of dogs being given Gardasil. Then, I search
pancreatitis vaccine dogs
and get a bunch of hits, a few of which are wackos asking
biased questions ("Pancreatitis is becoming much more common
as we weaken our dogs with too many vaccines") but no
research - NONE - establishing a link between dog
vaccinations and pancreatitis.

So, you've cited someone who doesn't cite anyone and doesn't
actually appear to have any expertise, and when I go and
find more I find not one instance of a vaccine that's
actually being given to dogs being linked to pancreatitis.

This is a pretty good illustration of why your posts aren't
convincing. There's no real evidence to support your
arguments. You don't do your homework.


Drmarcia’s Blog
Creating Well Beings!

About Dr. Marcia January 11, 2009
drmarcia @ 9:26 pm
Dr. Marcia graduated from Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine in 1990.
After graduation, she practiced conventional/allopathic medicine in Houston,
Texas. After practicing for 5 years, she began to realize that vaccines and
drug therapy did not hold the keys to health for her patients and began to
search for true healing methods. She studied Acupuncture through The
International Veterinary Acupuncture Society and obtained certification in
2003. She studied equine osteopathy with Dr. Janek Vluggen,
www.vluggeninstitute.com, one of the founders of the European equine
osteopathic movement. Her true calling was found when she attended The
Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy’s annual meeting in Miami in 2006. In 2007,
She left her Houston practice to join The Center for Holistic Medicine at
Calusa Veterinary Center in Boca Raton, (www.cvcboca.com) Florida where she
is able to dedicate herself to alternative medicine on a full time basis.
Dr. Marcia is currently studying veterinary homeopathy with Dr. Richard
Pitcairn, www.drpitcairn.com working toward certification through The
Academy of Veterinary Homeopathy, www.theavh.org.


Comments (7)



7 Responses to “About Dr. Marcia”
Scott Lebowitz Says:
March 12, 2009 at 4:32 am
Dr. Marcia,

Wonderful post. Please look at our website and call me at (954) 854-5431…let’s
help each other spread the message. Can’t wait to hear from you.

Scott lebowitz, Publisher
Holistic Health Magazine

JEAN HOAGLAND Says:
March 17, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Dr. Marcia,

Good detail in your bio. If you are interested in speaking to both lay and
professional homeopaths please get in touch with me as we have an
outstanding record of holding seminars in my area of central Florida.

Jean Hoagland, treasurer

http://www.NationalCenterforHomeopathy.org

drmarcia Says:
March 17, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Thanks Jean,
I would love to and I am sure my colleague Anthony Krawitz would be
interested also. I will be in touch

Rich Parsons Says:
March 26, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Dr. Marcia,
Thank you so much for posting the report from NBC News Los Angeles. Also,
thanks for taking a strong (and courageous) position on the use of flea and
tick products containing pesticide ingredients like pyrethrins and synthetic
pyrethroids (phenothrin). Many veterinarians, toxicologists and neurologists
are not willing to speak up although they are also fully aware of the
dangers. I admire your courage knowing full well that the manufacturers will
do everything they can to discount your opinion.

Our perfectly healthy six year old Scottish Terrier was killed by one of
these topical spot-on’s containing a high volume of phenothrin, a synthetic
pyrethroid…I didn’t know anything about this subject or this industry until
his death. What I’ve learned is that these manufacturers care only about
revenue…and will come down with their full resources to prevent public
knowledge. The EPA does not act until after the fact–when the body count
reaches a certain level, and it has to be substantial, they act, as they did
in 2005 with the Cancellation Order of Hartz Mountain’s cat and kitten flea
and tick product(s).

Thank you again, Dr. Marcia, for standing up on behalf of pets and families.

drmarcia Says:
March 26, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Rich, I am so sorry for you needless loss. Unfortunately most drug companies
are in it for the profit and not for the welfare of the public or their
pets.
We used those products 20 years ago, when that was all that was available
and we saw so many problems with them. Organophosphate toxicity was a common
presenting complaint in both my regular practice and the ER where I worked.
Since the advent of safer products, we don’t see as many of these cases but
they still occur.

Of course anytime you can avoid putting any chemicals directly on your pet
you should. Treating fleas should focus on environmental control where the
majority of the fleas reside.

Melody Balk Says:
March 27, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Please contact me with an email contact so I can stay in touch with your
articles and vet care

knowledgetoday Says:
March 29, 2009 at 5:39 am
I love your site. Keep it up !



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Old April 6th 09, 09:37 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior,rec.pets.dogs.breeds,rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.rescue,alt.med.veterinary
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Charley Sante wrote:
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
chardonnay9 wrote:
http://drmarcia.wordpress.com/2009/0...-and-vaccines/


Oooooohhh! A blog - authoritative!

So I go to the blog to learn more about these "authoritative
studies" only to find that she doesn't cite any - not one.
And I'm curious about her own veterinary background and she
doesn't describe it. Then, I do a search on the terms
pancreatitis vaccine
and find some papers linking pancreatitis to Hepatitis
vaccines, HPV vaccines, mumps vaccines, and Gardasil. Dogs
are not vaccinated for hepatitis or HPV (duh) and I didn't
know if they're administered Gardasil ever, and found no
descriptions of dogs being given Gardasil. Then, I search
pancreatitis vaccine dogs
and get a bunch of hits, a few of which are wackos asking
biased questions ("Pancreatitis is becoming much more common
as we weaken our dogs with too many vaccines") but no
research - NONE - establishing a link between dog
vaccinations and pancreatitis.

So, you've cited someone who doesn't cite anyone and doesn't
actually appear to have any expertise, and when I go and
find more I find not one instance of a vaccine that's
actually being given to dogs being linked to pancreatitis.

This is a pretty good illustration of why your posts aren't
convincing. There's no real evidence to support your
arguments. You don't do your homework.


Drmarcia’s Blog
Creating Well Beings!

About Dr. Marcia January 11, 2009
drmarcia @ 9:26 pm
Dr. Marcia graduated from Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine in
1990. After graduation, she practiced conventional/allopathic
medicine in Houston, Texas. After practicing for 5 years, she began
to realize that vaccines and drug therapy did not hold the keys to
health for her patients and began to search for true healing methods.


Big snipola

'no answer' came the stern reply

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008


  #5  
Old April 7th 09, 05:25 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Phil L
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Charley Sante wrote:
HOWEDY phil l,

"Phil L" wrote in message
...
Charley Sante wrote: Big snipola

'no answer' came the stern reply


You want ANSWERS, phil l?:


Yes, from Melinda WRT her citation accusations.


Subject: diabetic Yorkshire terrier trouble

phil l

1 14th August


5 years old at least, all this proves is that you've learned how to use
google groups and changed your name.


--
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RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008


  #6  
Old April 14th 09, 11:24 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
chardonnay9
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DK wrote:
In article , wrote:
"I have recently been introduced to several scientific studies linking
vaccine damage to pancreatitis. I have to admit that this connection
makes sense to me. We used to blame high fat foods for pancreatitis in
our pets but we are seeing an alarming increase in pancreatitis in our
patients even those eating a low fat prescription diet. These dogs don’t
fit our “pancreatitis risk group”. What is going on? It seems the one
common denominator is recent or repeated vaccination. The studies show
that histamine release triggered during vaccination causes damage to the
pancreas.

"I can honestly say that I have never seen pancreatitis in a minimally
vaccinated or non-vaccinated dog. I do believe that these study results
hold water and should be addressed by the veterinary community."

http://drmarcia.wordpress.com/2009/0...-and-vaccines/

Purely anecdotal - yes - but our dog, a miniature pinscher, died
two years ago from *simultaneous* pancreatitis and GME at the age
of 7 years.

In hindsight we realized that out vet - doubtedlessly to increase his
profit - has vaccinated her annually against just about everything.
(How stupid were we to trust the vet and not do the research
before hand? I can't believe we were that stupid).


Most people out there don't know the dangers and most vets don't want to
know.


Even worse, I have discovered that in common vet practice,
size of the dog does not figure at all in the vaccine dosage. In other
words, our 7 lb dog was injected with amounts of antigens approrpriate
for a 140 lb Greate Dane.


Yeah, it's rather bizarre isn't it? Vets don't like their clients
knowing that either.


And hyperimmunization is long suspected
to have a potential to trigger autoimmune deseases...


And the nitwits here will wait till there is a "study" done, not
realizing that vaccine manufacturers will never pay for it. It would
cost them way too much in revenues. Sometimes people should not be so
rigid and use their heads and common sense.


I dug quite a bit into the literature (I am a biochemist/molecular
biologist) and there is *some* evidence (not 100% solid but pretty
suggestive) for autoimmune etiology of GME. Havn't looked into
pancreatitis but given simultaneous appearence of two deadly
illnesses in our dog, I wouldn't be surprised if substantial proportion
of pancreatitis in dogs has autoimmune etiology. Certainly there
is precedent of this in humans...

DK


Thanks for posting. I noticed the "regulars" haven't responded to your
post. News like this should be spread far and wide. I know I do my best
to inform the pet owners I know of the dangers of over vaccinating.
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Old April 15th 09, 03:34 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Sharon Too
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bullshit snipped

Pretty pathetic for you to criticize anyone who doesn't agree with you, then
reinvent your ID so you pop out of our killfile. Keep patting yourself on
the back. (oh... and LYING)

PLONK - again



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Old April 15th 09, 03:35 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Melinda Shore
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Default Pancreatitis

In article ,
Sharon Too wrote:
Pretty pathetic for you to criticize anyone who doesn't agree with you, then
reinvent your ID so you pop out of our killfile. Keep patting yourself on
the back. (oh... and LYING)


If I had to guess I'd guess that she's not sock-puppeting
but rather lost her previous account for TOS violations.
--
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Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
  #9  
Old April 15th 09, 07:54 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Sharon Too
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If I had to guess I'd guess that she's not sock-puppeting
but rather lost her previous account for TOS violations.


The evil side of me wants to think that she's one of Jerry Howe's multiple
personalities.


  #10  
Old April 15th 09, 12:42 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
chardonnay9
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Sharon Too wrote:
bullshit snipped

Pretty pathetic for you to criticize anyone who doesn't agree with you, then
reinvent your ID so you pop out of our killfile.


I didn't change anything about my ID. Still making things up to complain
about I see.
 




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