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Significance of over bite
What is the rate of
growth for maxillary and mandibular growth? Does the lower jaw grow faster or more than the upper, therefore in a reasonable amount of time, say by adolesence, the jaws would have had an end to end, or normal bite? Heck if I know, but I looked at the breed standard on a couple of sites and they do mention some factoids on the bite, teeth and something called 'wry mouth'? http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/bostoter.cfm http://www.ankc.aust.com/bostterr.htm Deb Shi the Elder Georgie the Kid-Snarker |
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Thank you Christy and I really mean it sincerely. I have enough street
smarts and having been in business for myself for many years, I am not easily scammed. I am a doubting Thomas. I will appear to the "salesperson" to be an easy mark, but in my mind, I am cataloging how many times that sales pitch has contradicted itself. The older I get (ugh, I NEVER thought I'd say that) the more information I gather before I make a decision. To me, having a dog become a part of my family is a serious deal. I may not be right for all dogs and vice versa. And I have my Lucee, the Rat Terrier, in the mix, too. My awareness of dogs, their behaviors, my behavior and how it affects them, et al, has gone way up since I've been a participant in this group. I may look at a dozen more dogs before the right one comes along. If the karma isn't right, then it just ain't right. Right? The Bostons are cute though, really silly cheerful little dogs. Perry bentcajungirl "Christy" wrote in message ... "bentcajungirl" wrote in message ... I don't know what you mean about me running across these "back yard breeders". Just because I am looking doesn't mean I am contributing to their breeding tactics. I understand, but the more you look at puppies from BYB types, the more likely it is that one will capture your heart and you'll end up buying one. I was just trying to suggest that you steer clear of those folks. If you are referring to the fact that I am willing to adopt a puppy from the same "lady down the street" where I got Maggie, then oh well. I can't say that I think this is a great idea either, but I understand why you'd go that route. I agree that spay neuter is the best scenario, and that rescue is the ideal situation, but for right now, I am exploring ALL options. If I weren't willing to explore, I wouldn't ask questions....I would just act on impulse. And even if I find what I think is a great reputable breeder, I will still ask questions. Isn't that what this group is all about? I don't think one is ever done learning... I wasn't trying to discourage you from asking questions on the group; sorry if it came across that way. What I meant was, if you find someone who has puppies and is someone you can trust, it is a great source of help, as opposed to someone who will tell you whatever they think will sell a puppy. Christy |
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I am partial to the underbites. Dentally, they are known as class 3. This
little dog last night had the opposite, an overbite and an extreme one at that. I sensed many more problems with a lower jaw smaller than the upper. My Maggie was worse than Mandi and never had any problems other than what you mentioned with Mandi. Perry bentcajungirl "Tara O." wrote in message ... One of our rescues had a *very* severe underbite. It took Mandi a long time to find a home because of her looks. We checked with a specialist about possible surgery for her but she was never in pain and the procedure would have been extensive and painful to her so we left it alone. The only problems Mandi has a 1. hard time eating small kibble pieces 2. sloppy drinker 3. tongue hangs out Here are some pics: http://cbr.homestead.com/files/mandi/mandi3.jpg http://cbr.homestead.com/files/mandi/mandi.jpg http://cbr.homestead.com/files/mandi/manditongue.jpg -- Tara |
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Christy wrote: I have seen more underbites correct themselves than overbites, though. Christy Christy this is interesting to me. I don't believe I have ever seen a dog with an overbite. Many underbites but I am not aware of seeing a dog with an overbite. Are they not as obvious? Gwen |
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"Tara O." wrote in message ... One of our rescues had a *very* severe underbite. It took Mandi a long time to find a home because of her looks. We checked with a specialist about possible surgery for her but she was never in pain and the procedure would have been extensive and painful to her so we left it alone. The only problems Mandi has a 1. hard time eating small kibble pieces 2. sloppy drinker 3. tongue hangs out Here are some pics: http://cbr.homestead.com/files/mandi/mandi3.jpg http://cbr.homestead.com/files/mandi/mandi.jpg http://cbr.homestead.com/files/mandi/manditongue.jpg OMG, she's adorable, in a very silly way. i'd fall in love with a girl like that right away. i can't imagine she was hard to adopt out. how could anyone resist that face? -kelly |
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"Gwen Watson" wrote in message ... Christy this is interesting to me. I don't believe I have ever seen a dog with an overbite. Many underbites but I am not aware of seeing a dog with an overbite. Are they not as obvious? I think underbites are more obvious, yes. Especially in the big jawed bully breeds, where you get that whole Winston Churchill thing going on, with teeth sticking out and so on. It is adorable on those dogs, but on long-muzzled dogs, underbites look awkward instead of cute. They look like they are jutting their chin out. Overbites on long-muzzled dogs are often not really visible until you open the mouth to look at the bite, though sometimes it just looks like the dog never closes its mouth (the lips do not meet.) You probably wouldn't notice an overbite at just a glance unless it was really bad. Christy |
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"Christy" wrote in message ... "Gwen Watson" wrote in message ... Christy this is interesting to me. I don't believe I have ever seen a dog with an overbite. Many underbites but I am not aware of seeing a dog with an overbite. Are they not as obvious? I think underbites are more obvious, yes. Especially in the big jawed bully breeds, where you get that whole Winston Churchill thing going on, with teeth sticking out and so on. It is adorable on those dogs, but on long-muzzled dogs, underbites look awkward instead of cute. They look like they are jutting their chin out. Overbites on long-muzzled dogs are often not really visible until you open the mouth to look at the bite, though sometimes it just looks like the dog never closes its mouth (the lips do not meet.) You probably wouldn't notice an overbite at just a glance unless it was really bad. Christy Undershot jaws (another way to say overbite) in collies are more common than underbite. They are not very obvious unless you look for it. Dino had a definite undershot jaw. In collies the bad ones like Dino's are called shark jaws - the lower jaw tends to lack depth (i.e. lack much of a chin to it) as well as be short. If you take a shark jawed collie like Dino and point his nose straight up, it actually does look like the picture of the shark in the Jaws movie poster (i.e.the lips don't meet and you can see the teeth). http://makeashorterlink.com/?X63E13C35 In fact Dino's undershot jaw was the basis of one of our MOST stupid pet tricks: To start, Dino sat between my feet, facing outward. I would hold a little buxom blond doll (in a swimming pose) about 12 inches above his head and start to hum the Jaws Theme: "dun na du na du-na dun-na duna duna dunadunadunnaDUN-NA." On the first "dun-na", Dino would point his nose straight up in a pretty good shark imitation. He would hold the pose until I got to the big "NA" when he would give a little lunge up and chomp the doll. Chris and her smoothies and one scruffy, Zeffie, Pablo and Bode |
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Chris Jung wrote: In fact Dino's undershot jaw was the basis of one of our MOST stupid pet tricks: To start, Dino sat between my feet, facing outward. I would hold a little buxom blond doll (in a swimming pose) about 12 inches above his head and start to hum the Jaws Theme: "dun na du na du-na dun-na duna duna dunadunadunnaDUN-NA." On the first "dun-na", Dino would point his nose straight up in a pretty good shark imitation. He would hold the pose until I got to the big "NA" when he would give a little lunge up and chomp the doll. Chris and her smoothies and one scruffy, Zeffie, Pablo and Bode Hey that's a great story and trick. Funny. Gwen |
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Subject: Significance of over bite
From: "Tara O." Date: 7/11/03 1:30 PM Pacific Normally a wry mouth will have a slant to the lips (that's where its most noticable) and a tooth or two sticking out over the lip/cheek. Sounds adorable to me! Love those toofy grins. Deb Shi the Elder Georgie the Kid-Snarker |
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Christy said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
The lower jaw can grow at a different rate from the upper, but often a bad bite stays a bad bite. When I adopted Friday, his medical papers said that his puppy canines had been removed because his jaws were growing at different rates. I'd never heard of such a thing. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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