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Old June 9th 11, 05:03 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,uk.business.agriculture,alt.agriculture,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.dogs.misc
George Plimpton
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Default Animal existence, or elimination? If 'yes' to existence, thengood welfare or bad welfare

I fixed the subject line for you, ****wit - you had it wrong.


****wit David Harrison *ADMITTED* to being stupid again:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:50:32 -0700, wrote:

****wit David Harrison *ADMITTED* to being stupid again:


You people refer to appreciating when AW is successful as the LoL,


That's NOT what it is.

That IS exactly what it is


"appreciating when AW is successful" means being glad when measures like
larger pens or free range results in less suffering for animals


For those of us who are capable of it


You are incapable of it, ****wit: that's why you have *admitted* to not
doing it.


(than the
alternatives), that's not what The LoL means.

AW is a provisional condition to the Logic of the Larder as stated by Salt,
not the essence of it.


Having appreciation for when AW results


No, ****wit.


"If the animals live fairly decent lives" (conditional) then the LoL kicks
in, and says that consumers of animal products may take satisfaction in the
role they are playing in animals "getting to experience life".


Those of us who contribute can


You don't because you can't.


"being glad when measures like larger pens result in less suffering for
animals" and "taking satisfaction in the role we play in animals "getting to
experience life"" are completely distinct and separate ideas.

Your attempts to collapse these two ideas into one are transparent and
dishonest.


LOL!!!


Yep - it's funny as hell, ****wit. You keep trying to collapse two
questions into one, and I keep kicking your flabby cracKKKer ass for it.
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Old June 9th 11, 07:49 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,uk.business.agriculture,alt.agriculture,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.dogs.misc
[email protected]
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Default Animal Welfare, or elimination? (was: Douchebag...)

On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:50:32 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:

[email protected] wrote


You people refer to appreciating when AW is successful as the LoL,


That's NOT what it is.

That IS exactly what it is


"appreciating when AW is successful" means being glad when measures like
larger pens or free range results in less suffering for animals


For those of us who are capable of it, which you are not, it means
appreciating less suffering AND lives of positive value among other things. For
people like you all it means is a delay in total elimination.

(than the
alternatives), that's not what The LoL means.

AW is a provisional condition to the Logic of the Larder as stated by Salt,
not the essence of it.


Having appreciation for when AW results in lives of positive value for
millions of animals is what you people refer to as the LoL.

"If the animals live fairly decent lives" (conditional) then the LoL kicks
in, and says that consumers of animal products may take satisfaction in the
role they are playing in animals "getting to experience life".


Those of us who contribute can, those of you who do not can not.

"being glad when measures like larger pens result in less suffering for
animals" and "taking satisfaction in the role we play in animals "getting to
experience life"" are completely distinct and separate ideas.

Your attempts to collapse these two ideas into one are transparent and
dishonest.


LOL!!! Insisting on promoting the idea that all livestock animals suffer
while refusing to appreciate when AW is successful is one of the ways you reveal
yourself as an eliminationist. LOL! DUH!
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Old June 13th 11, 06:15 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,uk.business.agriculture,alt.agriculture,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.dogs.misc
George Plimpton
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Default Animal existence, or elimination? If 'yes' to existence, thengood welfare or bad welfare

I fixed your subject header, ****wit. In your usual cracKKKer ****wit
manner, you ****ed it up.


****wit David Harrison, cracKKKer liar, lied:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:37:20 -0700, wrote:



****wit David Harrison, cracKKKer liar, lied:
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:50:32 -0700, wrote:

****wit David Harrison, cracKKKer liar, lied:

You people refer to appreciating when AW is successful as the
LoL,

That's NOT what it is.

That IS exactly what it is

"appreciating when AW is successful" means being glad when measures like
larger pens or free range results in less suffering for animals

For those of us who are capable of it, which you are not, it means
appreciating less suffering AND lives of positive value among other
things. For
people like you all it means is a delay in total elimination.


You're a moron and a sicko,


Only an eliminationist would consider it "sick" to appreciate when AW is
successful


Meaningless cracKKKer blabber. "when 'AW' [sic] is successful" - the
words are English words, but it's not English.


quit cross-posting your moronic sickness.


Actually, surprisingly,


Getting to experience life is not a benefit to fighting birds or any
other livestock, ****wit.
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Old June 13th 11, 08:51 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,uk.business.agriculture,alt.agriculture,rec.pets.cats.community,rec.pets.dogs.misc
[email protected]
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Default Animal Welfare, or elimination? (was: Douchebag...)

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:37:20 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:



[email protected] wrote in message ...
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:50:32 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:

[email protected] wrote

You people refer to appreciating when AW is successful as the
LoL,

That's NOT what it is.

That IS exactly what it is

"appreciating when AW is successful" means being glad when measures like
larger pens or free range results in less suffering for animals


For those of us who are capable of it, which you are not, it means
appreciating less suffering AND lives of positive value among other
things. For
people like you all it means is a delay in total elimination.


You're a moron


You showed yourself the bigger moron by believing in 12 year old pet food
cattle, and by all your dishonesties. You also do it frequently by exposing
yourself as an elimiationist like by claiming to be in favor of AW while you
maniacally oppose appreciation for when it results in lives of positive value
for millions of livestock animals. You also do it by claiming to have unlearned
to have the appreciation you claimed to have developed in the past:



and a sicko,


Only an eliminationist would consider it "sick" to appreciate when AW is
successful, meaning you have revealed yourself yet AGAIN.

quit cross-posting your moronic sickness.


Actually, surprisingly, it's often pet owning enthusiasts who NEED to have
the huge difference between the misnomer and AW pointed out for them. And even
then sometimes they can't learn to appreciate it after is has been. I've seen
people discussing that fact in groups online, and just recently a girl working
in a pet store mentioned that exact same thing. And of course since I saw how
eliminationists contributed to the destruction of a dairy farm--and those cows
didn't even go to become pet food but became fertilizer instead--I know the
distinction between the two is very significant to agriculture too. You have no
valid bitch regarding the groups this information is being presented to, nor
does anyone else.
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