Ruud wrote:
Hi!

Hi!

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Especially now that he has a real bone from the butcher shop Amarok
(as we call him now - it's Inuit for 'wolf') really growls when I want
to caress him and/or grab his bone. Why am I doing that in the 1st
place? Well, I don't want him to be a danger/nuisance around our
family whenever he has food or a toy he feels possesive about.

But maybe I'm wrong and I should just let him be?

If I should try to curb this behaviour - what is the best way?
Growling back? Taking his neck and shaking him like his mother would
do? Taking the bone away? Yesterday after some growling he let me take
the bone any time and let me "eat" from it. Today he's really pissed
off though (understandably).

Also (trick question): *if* I should curb this behaviour should I
be taking his bone even if he is in his crate? On one hand I think,
yes, even there he should be safe for us - on the other hand, his
crate is supposed to be *his* safe place, right.....

Too happy & proud I have him btw :-)

Ruud


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SHELLY IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T THINK HATTIE IS STARVING

"when i got harriet she was emaciated, so i asked my vet for advice on
slowly adding weight to her. six months later i took harriet in for her
spring check-up and my vet was surprised that at how thin she still was."
--shelly couv.rette


"raises hand i've been told by three different vets that
harriet (53lbs) is *way* too skinny. we're still
vet-shopping, BTW."

--shelly couv.rette

"if you really can't resist
it when your dog pulls the "i'm starving!" routine G, you can give
him some frozen green beans or a small amount of plain pureed pumpkin.
i would also suggest putting the food out of his sight. i keep my
food--still inside the bags, which are tightly rolled down--inside
trash cans in the closed laundry room. that keeps it fresh and keeps
it out of my dogs' sight."

--shelly couv.rette

"heh. i get the opposite response. people think that poor little
harriet is positively starved to death. i've actually had people stop
me in the pet supply shop and tell me that i need to fatten her up!"

--shelly couv.rette


"i think that may be part of the problem. who wants to go to a
vet who tells you you're hurting your .widdle precious? i
think the other part is that some vets really don't *realize*
that what they consider proper weight is fat. after having
been told by a couple of vets that my dogs are too thin, i've
got a dim view of vets on that topic."

--shelly couv.rette

"my mom is kinda that way, but not *as* bad. she thinks that harriet is
awfully skinny, so feeding her table snax is okay. she tells me that
just a bite won't hurt."

--shelly couv.rette


NOBODY IS STARVING FAT PI.G SHELLY

NOBODY WILL STOP SHELLY ON THE STREET
AND TELL HER SHE IS STARVING HERSELF
shelly's fat face
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There are a lot of big fat women on these groups who starve their dogs
out of vanity, but shelly is a special case.

shelly is moor.e than a little bit beyond the pale

Shelly has OCD, and maybe she's just a little obsessive about measuring
out extra tiny and discrete portions with a tiny measuring cup, or
counting out pieces of green bean or pumpkin that she gives her dogs
when they give her the "I'm Starving" routine. When grandma tried to
give Hattie a snack, shelly probably went apeshit, because it was in
violation of her Obsessive need to oversee every tiny calorie that goes
into her widdle precious' mouth.

shelly's a special case, a special kind of dog abuser.

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:15:43 GMT, Ruud wrote:

Hi!

Especially now that he has a real bone from the butcher shop Amarok
(as we call him now - it's Inuit for 'wolf') really growls when I want
to caress him and/or grab his bone. Why am I doing that in the 1st
place? Well, I don't want him to be a danger/nuisance around our
family whenever he has food or a toy he feels possesive about.

But maybe I'm wrong and I should just let him be?

If I should try to curb this behaviour - what is the best way?
Growling back? Taking his neck and shaking him like his mother would
do?

No, definitely don't do either of those. He knows you're not his
mother.

Taking the bone away? Yesterday after some growling he let me take
the bone any time and let me "eat" from it. Today he's really pissed
off though (understandably).

Also (trick question): *if* I should curb this behaviour should I
be taking his bone even if he is in his crate? On one hand I think,
yes, even there he should be safe for us - on the other hand, his
crate is supposed to be *his* safe place, right.....

Teach him to trade his bone/toy/food for something you have. You'll
have to get something pretty good to compete with his bone, like
freeze dried liver, maybe a turkey hot dog, or something similarly
delectable. Toss the treat to him, let him eat it. If he lets you
get close to his bone without growling, trade him a treat for the
bone, then give the bone right back. If he growls when you get close
to the bone, toss a treat so he has to turn his head away from the
bone to get it, and pick up the bone. Always give the bone right back
when doing this. Keep practicing until he's comfortable trading
whatever he has for your treat. You might add a cue/command such as
"out", so that eventually you'll just be able to ask him to give you
what he has with a word.

Mustang Sally