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Old January 31st 12, 03:00 PM
renkma renkma is offline
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Default Dilute Urine in my Honey

The following question is no longer valid. My dog's case/condition has been taken to a specialist. If you have concerns of the same symptoms and there is no explanation with the usual urine anaylisis and blood work, consider educating yourself about a condition called SARDs. It is somewhat rare, but worth knowing about and testing for.
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Hello - I hope there are others that have been through this and might have a few ideas as to what is happening to my 10yo Brittany Spaniel Honey.

A few days ago she was drinking a LOT and peeing a lot. Her urine was very pale and odorless. On the third day she seemed better and was drinking more normally, but her pee was still pale and odorless. I got a sample and brought her in to the vet.

She does seem slightly constipated but I usually have her on fibre and took her off for a few days because I was concerned with this problem - this might be why her poops are a little dry, but other than that, she shows no other symptoms at all. Her vitals are great. Temp fine. Appetite is ravenous (which may be a symptom of something). No hair loss. Coat is nice. Playful and content. Urine sample shows perfect surgars so it isn't diabetes, and there is no evidence of infection (UTI). It is very dilute though, and the ph is a bit off. My vet, one of the best in our area, finds it all very curious. He said it may be chronic renal failure, but she shows absolutely no other symptoms. He talked about Cushings, but again, she shows no other symptoms. He said he has seen this kind of thing before and the problem resolved itself within a week - perhaps the dog got into something that made the kidneys need to flush themselves. He suggested that we wait a few days and watch her closely. If the problem is still present next week, to bring her in and they would do a bloodwork and check out everything.

She is very comfortable napping right now. Had a wonderful breakfast. Had a couple of generous drinks, but nothing that made me overly concerned. And two big pees, BOTH very pale and odorless STILL.

I know my vet is on the case and he wouldn't steer me wrong - he's been with me for over 25 years and many pets - he is a wonderful doctor. I just find this waiting period of watching her to be torturous. I love her so SO much and I can't help but be panicking. Is this the start of chronic renal failure? My mind is telling me this is the beginning of the end and I'm so upset.

Has anyone else had any experiences like this, and what did it end up being? Is there anything I should be doing or can do for her?

Thank you all for your time.

Last edited by renkma : February 2nd 12 at 02:55 PM. Reason: question no longer valid
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Old February 4th 12, 01:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Default Dilute Urine in my Honey

On 1/31/2012 9:00 AM, renkma wrote:
He suggested that we wait a few days and
watch her closely. If the problem is still present next week, to bring
her in and they would do a bloodwork and check out everything.

........Get a first thing in the morning appointment, because the
bloodwork should be done after a 12 hour fast. I'd get CBC and
chemistry panel - everything.

..........Get a pee sample from first pee in the morning. It will be the
most concentrated if your dog can concentrate urine. Take it in with
you. Put on ice or refrigerate if time between collection and lab work
is more than 1/2 hour.

.......Not necessarily renal failure - could be Cushings, Addisons,
diabetes, etc.

..........Or nothing.

buglady
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Old February 5th 12, 09:43 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Indeed, it can be "nothing".... just a new normal for that dog. A
friend had a Border Terrier bitch that seemed to be suddenly producing
more urine than normal..... lots more. She was tested for everything to
do with kidney function, adrenal function, and even diabetes insipidus
(it's not at all like diabetes mellitus,, or "sugar diabetes", but is
caused by pituitary gland malfunction.... production of too little
pituitrin, which can be replaced.... can happen with dogs, but is not
common) which results in HIGH volumes of unconcentrated urine.... almost
pure water.... and matching thirst. Mary's dog had normal results from
all tests.... was otherwise healthy, active, and lived seven more
years.... just didn't concentrate her urine as much as "normal".

Jo Wolf
Martinez, Georgia, USA

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Old February 7th 12, 01:12 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
cyndi
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Default Dilute Urine in my Honey

On Jan 31, 9:00*am, renkma wrote:
Hello - I hope there are others that have been through this and might
have a few ideas as to what is happening to my 10yo Brittany Spaniel
Honey.

A few days ago she was drinking a LOT and peeing a lot. *Her urine was
very pale and odorless. *On the third day she seemed better and was
drinking more normally, but her pee was still pale and odorless. I got a
sample and brought her in to the vet.

She does seem slightly constipated but I usually have her on fibre and
took her off for a few days because I was concerned with this problem -
this might be why her poops are a little dry, but other than that, she
shows no other symptoms at all. *Her vitals are great. *Temp fine.
Appetite is ravenous (which may be a symptom of something). *No hair
loss. *Coat is nice. *Playful and content. *Urine sample shows perfect
surgars so it isn't diabetes, and there is no evidence of infection
(UTI). *It is very dilute though, and the ph is a bit off. *My vet, one
of the best in our area, finds it all very curious. *He said it may be
chronic renal failure, but she shows absolutely no other symptoms. *He
talked about Cushings, but again, she shows no other symptoms. *He said
he has seen this kind of thing before and the problem resolved itself
within a week - perhaps the dog got into something that made the kidneys
need to flush themselves. *He suggested that we wait a few days and
watch her closely. *If the problem is still present next week, to bring
her in and they would do a bloodwork and check out everything.

She is very comfortable napping right now. *Had a wonderful breakfast.
Had a couple of generous drinks, but nothing that made me overly
concerned. *And two big pees, BOTH very pale and odorless STILL.

I know my vet is on the case and he wouldn't steer me wrong - he's been
with me for over 25 years and many pets - he is a wonderful doctor. *I
just find this waiting period of watching her to be torturous. *I love
her so SO much and I can't help but be panicking. *Is this the start of
chronic renal failure? *My mind is telling me this is the beginning of
the end and I'm so upset.

Has anyone else had any experiences like this, and what did it end up
being? *Is there anything I should be doing or can do for her?

Thank you all for your time.

--
renkma


You aren't telling us what you are feeding the dog. Dry food will
cause problems with thirst and urination. Are you feeding kibble? What
kind? And what "fibre" are you feeding and why? What else are you
feeding?

What goes in determines what comes out.

Cyndi
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Old February 10th 12, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cyndi View Post
On Jan 31, 9:00*am, renkma wrote:
Hello - I hope there are others that have been through this and might
have a few ideas as to what is happening to my 10yo Brittany Spaniel
Honey.

A few days ago she was drinking a LOT and peeing a lot. *Her urine was
very pale and odorless. *On the third day she seemed better and was
drinking more normally, but her pee was still pale and odorless. I got a
sample and brought her in to the vet.

She does seem slightly constipated but I usually have her on fibre and
took her off for a few days because I was concerned with this problem -
this might be why her poops are a little dry, but other than that, she
shows no other symptoms at all. *Her vitals are great. *Temp fine.
Appetite is ravenous (which may be a symptom of something). *No hair
loss. *Coat is nice. *Playful and content. *Urine sample shows perfect
surgars so it isn't diabetes, and there is no evidence of infection
(UTI). *It is very dilute though, and the ph is a bit off. *My vet, one
of the best in our area, finds it all very curious. *He said it may be
chronic renal failure, but she shows absolutely no other symptoms. *He
talked about Cushings, but again, she shows no other symptoms. *He said
he has seen this kind of thing before and the problem resolved itself
within a week - perhaps the dog got into something that made the kidneys
need to flush themselves. *He suggested that we wait a few days and
watch her closely. *If the problem is still present next week, to bring
her in and they would do a bloodwork and check out everything.

She is very comfortable napping right now. *Had a wonderful breakfast.
Had a couple of generous drinks, but nothing that made me overly
concerned. *And two big pees, BOTH very pale and odorless STILL.

I know my vet is on the case and he wouldn't steer me wrong - he's been
with me for over 25 years and many pets - he is a wonderful doctor. *I
just find this waiting period of watching her to be torturous. *I love
her so SO much and I can't help but be panicking. *Is this the start of
chronic renal failure? *My mind is telling me this is the beginning of
the end and I'm so upset.

Has anyone else had any experiences like this, and what did it end up
being? *Is there anything I should be doing or can do for her?

Thank you all for your time.

--
renkma


You aren't telling us what you are feeding the dog. Dry food will
cause problems with thirst and urination. Are you feeding kibble? What
kind? And what "fibre" are you feeding and why? What else are you
feeding?

What goes in determines what comes out.

Cyndi
What did the vet tell you now? Did your dog undergo any test other than urinalysis?

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