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Ping Pug People- what do you think of/know about this breeder?
This web site doesn't give me any "red flags", and it's got some things
that seem like "green flags" to me, but I don't know much about Pugs. http://singalong.hypermart.net/about.html Comments? -- Sarah Brenin, CGC, AD, O-EAC-V, O-EJC-V, EGC Gwydion, Handy Cat Morag Thistledown, Novice Triple Superior, S-OAC, S-OJC, O-OGC, EJC Robyn Meezer, Inspector of Human Activity Rocsi Cadarn, S-NJC, NAC,NGC, NGTG, OGTG we can be seen at: http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs1 and http://photos.yahoo.com/amberdogs2 |
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"Sionnach" wrote in
: This web site doesn't give me any "red flags", and it's got some things that seem like "green flags" to me, but I don't know much about Pugs. http://singalong.hypermart.net/about.html Comments? They seem ok. They are new to the breed. Both of the kennels they have "foundation" from, Kroepel and Ronk, are decent breeders. I am wary that they are breeding the one bitch and no mention of showing her at all. You won't find much in the way of health testing in Pugs. Even the best breeders don't do a whole lot. Do you know of someone looking for a Pug, Sarah? -- -Abby Pems, Aussie, and a Pug ****Remove shoes to reply**** |
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"Sionnach" wrote in
: This web site doesn't give me any "red flags", and it's got some things that seem like "green flags" to me, but I don't know much about Pugs. http://singalong.hypermart.net/about.html Comments? They seem ok. They are new to the breed. Both of the kennels they have "foundation" from, Kroepel and Ronk, are decent breeders. I am wary that they are breeding the one bitch and no mention of showing her at all. You won't find much in the way of health testing in Pugs. Even the best breeders don't do a whole lot. Do you know of someone looking for a Pug, Sarah? -- -Abby Pems, Aussie, and a Pug ****Remove shoes to reply**** |
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Both of the kennels they have "foundation" from, Kroepel and Ronk, are decent breeders. Ah- good, that's one of the things I was wondering about. I am wary that they are breeding the one bitch and no mention of showing her at all. On the plus side, I like it that they're very upfront about selling all their puppies on limited registration. And my friend's not looking for a show dog; just a healthy pet with a good temperament. Do you know of someone looking for a Pug, Sarah? Well, she's not looking any more- she's sent a deposit for one of the two puppies that this breeder currently has available. From all reports, in-person (on the phone, so far, because the pups are too young for having visitors by this breeder's rules) has been good; appropriate questions asked and answered on both sides, no pushing about money- IOW, no hurry to sell the pups, and a desire to make sure they go into good homes & that the buyer gets a good match temperamentally. BTW the person in question is my good friend who gave me Rocsi; she did her research this time to find a breed that suits her lifestyle and personality, and the other factors that made her unable to keep Rocsi have changed. The dog she already has now has two years of solid training; her work schedule is currently more appropriate to raising a puppy; she's changed her living arrangements, has a good dogwalker lined up, and so forth. |
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Both of the kennels they have "foundation" from, Kroepel and Ronk, are decent breeders. Ah- good, that's one of the things I was wondering about. I am wary that they are breeding the one bitch and no mention of showing her at all. On the plus side, I like it that they're very upfront about selling all their puppies on limited registration. And my friend's not looking for a show dog; just a healthy pet with a good temperament. Do you know of someone looking for a Pug, Sarah? Well, she's not looking any more- she's sent a deposit for one of the two puppies that this breeder currently has available. From all reports, in-person (on the phone, so far, because the pups are too young for having visitors by this breeder's rules) has been good; appropriate questions asked and answered on both sides, no pushing about money- IOW, no hurry to sell the pups, and a desire to make sure they go into good homes & that the buyer gets a good match temperamentally. BTW the person in question is my good friend who gave me Rocsi; she did her research this time to find a breed that suits her lifestyle and personality, and the other factors that made her unable to keep Rocsi have changed. The dog she already has now has two years of solid training; her work schedule is currently more appropriate to raising a puppy; she's changed her living arrangements, has a good dogwalker lined up, and so forth. |
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The "don't let your dog meet any other dogs before 6 mos" is total BULLSHIT. Well, yeah. And my friend has no intention of paying any attention to THAT. G |
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The "don't let your dog meet any other dogs before 6 mos" is total BULLSHIT. Well, yeah. And my friend has no intention of paying any attention to THAT. G |
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"Sionnach" wrote in
: Well, yeah. And my friend has no intention of paying any attention to THAT. G Oh good!!!! sigh of relief OTOH, there may be some immune-related issues in this breeder's stuff that may warrant this precaution--IOW they may not be as healthy as she would like to think. -- -Abby Pems, Aussie, and a Pug ****Remove shoes to reply**** |
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"Sionnach" wrote in
: Well, yeah. And my friend has no intention of paying any attention to THAT. G Oh good!!!! sigh of relief OTOH, there may be some immune-related issues in this breeder's stuff that may warrant this precaution--IOW they may not be as healthy as she would like to think. -- -Abby Pems, Aussie, and a Pug ****Remove shoes to reply**** |
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"Abby Pennington" wrote: Yes, also a good thing (no rush for money, no rush to sell the puppies). But I still really think their "no contact til 6 mos" is really, REALLY odd. Actually, I've heard variations on that one before; it's kind of like the thing about not taking dogs to training classes until 6 mo. I was taking my Pug pup to show classes to get used to it from 4 mos up. He went to the vet's office (my place of employment), Pug parties, etc. Yup. Rocsi went everywhere as soon as I got her. My personal opinion is that the socialization benefits far outweigh the health risks, as long as you're careful. If you isolate them too much, that can be problematic. (See: people who use antibacterial soaps with their kids on EVERYTHING have a higher incidence of their children becoming ill than those who let their kids play in the mud and, well, be kids. Overvigilance--is that a word?--can work against the body's immune response.) Yup again. G I have a feeling the breeder may be like that about her kids, too- did you notice she's got six of 'em?- in fact, I have a sneaking suspicion she may be a homeschooler. There's a certain contingent of homeschoolers who believe in protecting their kids like that, too. (Dunno if you've ever seen me mention the fact that my sister homeschooled; *she's* not like that, but we knew quite a few other hs parents who were.) Pugs are a toy breed, and they do have some special needs wrt their snub nose, but they are not bubble dogs! They are rough-and- tumble little guys with a heart of gold. I *like* Pugs. There are quite a few of them that come to the park we (both Dani and I) exercise our dogs in, and they're cool little dogs- if you TREAT them like dogs. As a matter of fact, I often suggest Pugs to people who like Rocsi's outgoing personality & her small size, but aren't up to the energy level and prey drive of a JRT. Rocsi, btw, *really* likes Pugs and gets along with them well. Good! I really hope this puppy works out for her, as a Pug is a wonderful enhancement to anyone's life. Again, tho, tell her to be careful as it sounds like maybe there are some immune issues with this breeder's dogs. I'll mention it to her- she's a nurse, so she understands that sort of issue. G And tell her to treat it like a dog, fercryingoutloud! No fear! If the deal goes through, the pup will be playing with and meeting my guys, maybe going to Janet Boss' PK, and definitely will be coming up to the park as soon as she's had enough of her shots. Oh, and Pugs are notoriously hard to housetrain. She may need some bellybands. Ah- good idea. |
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