I am the owner of a now 14 weeks old norwegian elkhound named Kita. We
bought a sizable crate to "potty train" with, and during the day we have no
problems. We take her out with the other two dogs atleast 10 times a day,
my wife works from home, and most of the time we have no problems.

The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around and
lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake to find
that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is sleeping in it. She
goes a couple times during the day outside with no problem. We keep her
downstairs with the other two dogs (not crated) and have tried keeping her
in our room (maybe the sound of me snoring will make her feel better) but
to no avail. This morning (it is 1:50am now) she was in her crate for the
night about 30 minutes ago after peeing outside, I walk to the bathroom to
find she had poo'd in the crate.

Now I know that there are alot of people who say not to crate and will
berate me for doing it, thats not what I want to hear, please. For those
that do and have crated, what can I do? Am I doing something wrong? It has
been almost a month and the behavior continues.

Please help!

Thal

Feed the dog where it sleeps, in the crate.

Thalador Du'Fosnee wrote:

I am the owner of a now 14 weeks old norwegian elkhound named Kita. We
bought a sizable crate to "potty train" with, and during the day we have no
problems. We take her out with the other two dogs atleast 10 times a day,
my wife works from home, and most of the time we have no problems.

The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around and
lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake to find
that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is sleeping in it. She
goes a couple times during the day outside with no problem. We keep her
downstairs with the other two dogs (not crated) and have tried keeping her
in our room (maybe the sound of me snoring will make her feel better) but
to no avail. This morning (it is 1:50am now) she was in her crate for the
night about 30 minutes ago after peeing outside, I walk to the bathroom to
find she had poo'd in the crate.

Now I know that there are alot of people who say not to crate and will
berate me for doing it, thats not what I want to hear, please. For those
that do and have crated, what can I do? Am I doing something wrong? It has
been almost a month and the behavior continues.

Please help!

Thal

Feed the dog where it sleeps, in the crate.

Thalador Du'Fosnee wrote:

I am the owner of a now 14 weeks old norwegian elkhound named Kita. We
bought a sizable crate to "potty train" with, and during the day we have no
problems. We take her out with the other two dogs atleast 10 times a day,
my wife works from home, and most of the time we have no problems.

The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around and
lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake to find
that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is sleeping in it. She
goes a couple times during the day outside with no problem. We keep her
downstairs with the other two dogs (not crated) and have tried keeping her
in our room (maybe the sound of me snoring will make her feel better) but
to no avail. This morning (it is 1:50am now) she was in her crate for the
night about 30 minutes ago after peeing outside, I walk to the bathroom to
find she had poo'd in the crate.

Now I know that there are alot of people who say not to crate and will
berate me for doing it, thats not what I want to hear, please. For those
that do and have crated, what can I do? Am I doing something wrong? It has
been almost a month and the behavior continues.

Please help!

Thal

"Thalador Du'Fosnee" wrote
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The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around and
lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake to find
that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is sleeping in it.

What time do you feed the dog, and how much? What time is bed time? Perhaps
you are feeding her too late in the day, and too much. Oh, and no treats
after dinner!

I've always fed my dogs at 6pm, and bedtime is usually between 11pm to
midnight. Our dogs always did a final poop before bed and we never had a
night time crate accident. Worked for me.

--
-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis
http://home1.gte.net/res0s12z/
The Trolls Nest - greenmen, goblins & gargoyle wall art
www.trollsnest.com

"Thalador Du'Fosnee" wrote
snip
The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around and
lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake to find
that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is sleeping in it.

What time do you feed the dog, and how much? What time is bed time? Perhaps
you are feeding her too late in the day, and too much. Oh, and no treats
after dinner!

I've always fed my dogs at 6pm, and bedtime is usually between 11pm to
midnight. Our dogs always did a final poop before bed and we never had a
night time crate accident. Worked for me.

--
-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis
http://home1.gte.net/res0s12z/
The Trolls Nest - greenmen, goblins & gargoyle wall art
www.trollsnest.com

I feed the dog in the crate, usually at 6-6:30pm. Bedtime is between 11:30
and 1am usually.


"Andrea" wrote in
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"Thalador Du'Fosnee" wrote
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The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around
and lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake
to find that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is
sleeping in it.

What time do you feed the dog, and how much? What time is bed time?
Perhaps you are feeding her too late in the day, and too much. Oh, and
no treats after dinner!

I've always fed my dogs at 6pm, and bedtime is usually between 11pm to
midnight. Our dogs always did a final poop before bed and we never had
a night time crate accident. Worked for me.

I feed the dog in the crate, usually at 6-6:30pm. Bedtime is between 11:30
and 1am usually.


"Andrea" wrote in
:

"Thalador Du'Fosnee" wrote
snip
The problem happens every night after we go to bed. She is put in the
crate, which is sized so that she has just enough room to turn around
and lie comfortably (as the directions said). Every morning we wake
to find that she has poo'd (deficated) in the crate and she is
sleeping in it.

What time do you feed the dog, and how much? What time is bed time?
Perhaps you are feeding her too late in the day, and too much. Oh, and
no treats after dinner!

I've always fed my dogs at 6pm, and bedtime is usually between 11pm to
midnight. Our dogs always did a final poop before bed and we never had
a night time crate accident. Worked for me.

Thalador Du'Fosnee said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

For those
that do and have crated, what can I do?

First, give Kita's crate a thorough cleaning with an enzymtic
cleaner like Nature's Miracle.

Next, move her crate into your bedroom. Kita might be giving
all the signals asking to be let out to poo, but no one is there
to hear them. If, for some reason, this arrangement doesn't
work for you, set your alarm for 2 or 3 am and take her out. At
this age, potty training is all about management.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Thalador Du'Fosnee said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

For those
that do and have crated, what can I do?

First, give Kita's crate a thorough cleaning with an enzymtic
cleaner like Nature's Miracle.

Next, move her crate into your bedroom. Kita might be giving
all the signals asking to be let out to poo, but no one is there
to hear them. If, for some reason, this arrangement doesn't
work for you, set your alarm for 2 or 3 am and take her out. At
this age, potty training is all about management.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

"Thalador Du'Fosnee" wrote:
I feed the dog in the crate, usually at 6-6:30pm. Bedtime is between 11:30
and 1am usually.

Is she doing #2 before you crate her at night? I mean, the problem is
probably either that she's not going before bed, or she's got more to do. If
she's not going at all (right before bed), you might try running around the
block with her - that'll usually stimulate a bowl movement. Don't put her to
bed until she goes. If she is going, but then goes again during the night,
try feeding her 3 smaller meals during the day, but again, no later than
6:30 and no snacks before bed.

The more often she has the accident, less undisposed to lying in her own
feces she'll be. What's the breeder recommended?

--
-Andrea Stone
Saorsa Basenjis
http://home1.gte.net/res0s12z/
The Trolls Nest - greenmen, goblins & gargoyle wall art
www.trollsnest.com