PS: I'm amused by your inconsistency, Dogstar. You claim that
learning how to use/fit a choke/training collar correctly is so
terribly difficult

Excuse me? Where did I say that?

but you seem to think that the same people who are
too stupid and uncoordinated to do that, will MAGICALLY overnight get
a lot smarter and more coordinated, just by flashing the mythical
prong collar before their eyes.

It is much easier to show a person how to use a prong collar correctly then it
is to show a person how to correctly train a dog using a choke chain.
Dogstar716
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