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September 15th 03, 02:13 PM
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Getting the Point Across
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Kind2dogs wrote:
However NOONE will post before they are SURE they will have back up on what way is the right way. oh waaah! Well, for me and my dogs and IME and all the dogs that I take into rescue, this way works the FASTEST to get the dogs attention. the question wasn't about getting the dog's attention. it was what is the fastest way to extinguish a behavior. Lynn stated that merely distracting does not extinguish a behavior. that makes perfect sense to me. she went on to point out that if the bad behavior is offered in hopes of gaining attention (hi Leah!), distraction, which is a form of attention, may reinforce the bad behavior. i'm not a trainer, but i've found that, depending on the behavior/dog, either ignoring unacceptable behavior or correcting it quickly and clearly works pretty well. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette 
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September 15th 03, 02:45 PM
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Subject: Getting the Point Across
From: shelly Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2003 9:13 AM Message-id: e.net On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Kind2dogs wrote: However NOONE will post before they are SURE they will have back up on what way is the right way. oh waaah! Ahhh let's not start,huh? If you think I am whining .I'm not. I do not like whiners. Just calling it like it is. Well, for me and my dogs and IME and all the dogs that I take into rescue, this way works the FASTEST to get the dogs attention. the question wasn't about getting the dog's attention. it was what is the fastest way to extinguish a behavior. And I wrote it was to get the attention on to me and OFF what they are doing. Lynn stated that merely distracting does not extinguish a behavior. that makes perfect sense to me. she went on to point out that if the bad behavior is offered in hopes of gaining attention (hi Leah!), distraction, which is a form of attention, may reinforce the bad behavior. i'm not a trainer, but i've found that, depending on the behavior/dog, either ignoring unacceptable behavior or correcting it quickly and clearly works pretty well. And that is what I am doing. I am also te only one that answered the post with what I would do. Paulette~ -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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September 15th 03, 02:45 PM
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Subject: Getting the Point Across
From: shelly Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2003 9:13 AM Message-id: e.net On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Kind2dogs wrote: However NOONE will post before they are SURE they will have back up on what way is the right way. oh waaah! Ahhh let's not start,huh? If you think I am whining .I'm not. I do not like whiners. Just calling it like it is. Well, for me and my dogs and IME and all the dogs that I take into rescue, this way works the FASTEST to get the dogs attention. the question wasn't about getting the dog's attention. it was what is the fastest way to extinguish a behavior. And I wrote it was to get the attention on to me and OFF what they are doing. Lynn stated that merely distracting does not extinguish a behavior. that makes perfect sense to me. she went on to point out that if the bad behavior is offered in hopes of gaining attention (hi Leah!), distraction, which is a form of attention, may reinforce the bad behavior. i'm not a trainer, but i've found that, depending on the behavior/dog, either ignoring unacceptable behavior or correcting it quickly and clearly works pretty well. And that is what I am doing. I am also te only one that answered the post with what I would do. Paulette~ -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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September 15th 03, 03:36 PM
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On 15 Sep 2003 13:45:45 GMT, (Kind2dogs) wrote:
Subject: Getting the Point Across From: shelly Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2003 9:13 AM Message-id: e.net On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Kind2dogs wrote: However NOONE will post before they are SURE they will have back up on what way is the right way. oh waaah! Ahhh let's not start,huh? If you think I am whining .I'm not. I do not like whiners. Just calling it like it is. Well, for me and my dogs and IME and all the dogs that I take into rescue, this way works the FASTEST to get the dogs attention. the question wasn't about getting the dog's attention. it was what is the fastest way to extinguish a behavior. And I wrote it was to get the attention on to me and OFF what they are doing. Lynn stated that merely distracting does not extinguish a behavior. that makes perfect sense to me. she went on to point out that if the bad behavior is offered in hopes of gaining attention (hi Leah!), distraction, which is a form of attention, may reinforce the bad behavior. i'm not a trainer, but i've found that, depending on the behavior/dog, either ignoring unacceptable behavior or correcting it quickly and clearly works pretty well. And that is what I am doing. I am also te only one that answered the post with what I would do. Inasmuch as the question was addressed to Leah, I, for one, didn't feel compelled to answer. Mustang Sally
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September 15th 03, 03:39 PM
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Kind2dogs wrote:
Ahhh let's not start,huh? considering i'm not the one who "started" anything, it's kinda silly of you to complain to me about it. If you think I am whining .I'm not. I do not like whiners. Just calling it like it is. it sounded remarkably like whining to me. just calling it like i see it, mind you. I am also te only one that answered the post with what I would do. ah well. i don't count for anything, i guess. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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September 15th 03, 03:39 PM
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Kind2dogs wrote:
Ahhh let's not start,huh? considering i'm not the one who "started" anything, it's kinda silly of you to complain to me about it. If you think I am whining .I'm not. I do not like whiners. Just calling it like it is. it sounded remarkably like whining to me. just calling it like i see it, mind you. I am also te only one that answered the post with what I would do. ah well. i don't count for anything, i guess. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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September 15th 03, 03:42 PM
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Subject: Getting the Point Across
From: sighthounds etc. Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2003 10:36 AM Message-id: Inasmuch as the question was addressed to Leah, I, for one, didn't feel compelled to answer. Mustang Sally Oh yeah right, so you don't answer posts that are not addressed to you. Geshhhhhhhhhh Paulette
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September 15th 03, 03:42 PM
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Subject: Getting the Point Across
From: sighthounds etc. Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2003 10:36 AM Message-id: Inasmuch as the question was addressed to Leah, I, for one, didn't feel compelled to answer. Mustang Sally Oh yeah right, so you don't answer posts that are not addressed to you. Geshhhhhhhhhh Paulette
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September 15th 03, 03:42 PM
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Subject: Getting the Point Across
From: sighthounds etc. Date: Mon, Sep 15, 2003 10:36 AM Message-id: Inasmuch as the question was addressed to Leah, I, for one, didn't feel compelled to answer. Mustang Sally Oh yeah right, so you don't answer posts that are not addressed to you. Geshhhhhhhhhh Paulette
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