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Barking Belgian Malinois
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My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, if you aren't familiar with them. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy |
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Arizona Snoopy wrote: Hi, My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... Welcome and don't worry! I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, Not really similar at all. I have both and to me their personalities as well as drive and other things make them quite different. But originally I did think the above. if you aren't familiar with them. Very. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. Quite common in the breed. Clovis is so territorial she doesn't even like humans too close to me out in public. She is quite possessive. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). This is common as well of just about any breed of dog. Cats are sort of like prey you see. He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. Well all my dogs do this. Blade doesn't like knocking on the doors much but once a person enters they all greet with wagging tails. Unless you are my MIL and then Clovis hates her. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Are you leaving him outside during the day? This could definitely be a problem and your neighbors may in fact complain. It is probably best to leave him in your house if he is barking this much and is being a nuisance. Barking is an outlet for dogs. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. You did not mention taking him to training class or a training professional that could help with this solution. I am sure there are several in your area highly recommended. Sometimes the negative attention becomes something the dog will seek. Clicker training does lots for many dogs. Have you tried any clicker training? You could try by clicking the minute he quits barking and offering an immediate treat. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? Once it is a habit it can be hard to break but it can be done through much consistency and love. It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy Well there is the "Speak" and click and the "no speak" and click commands as well and you could try teaching him this. At this point it is important to start with "no speak" or any other simple command that means essentially that. Don't give the command first. Wait until he is quiet then click over treat say good "no speak". But hey I am sure you will get much better advice from the people on this NG that are trainers as a profession or hobby. I am not. I just love dogs and I do own a Malinois and Clovis does have this barking tendency as well. Good luck and hope many people hear give you advice much better than mine. I would seek a professional trainer if I were you. One that uses positive reinforcement methods, preferably. Gwen |
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Arizona Snoopy wrote: Hi, My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... Welcome and don't worry! I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, Not really similar at all. I have both and to me their personalities as well as drive and other things make them quite different. But originally I did think the above. if you aren't familiar with them. Very. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. Quite common in the breed. Clovis is so territorial she doesn't even like humans too close to me out in public. She is quite possessive. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). This is common as well of just about any breed of dog. Cats are sort of like prey you see. He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. Well all my dogs do this. Blade doesn't like knocking on the doors much but once a person enters they all greet with wagging tails. Unless you are my MIL and then Clovis hates her. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Are you leaving him outside during the day? This could definitely be a problem and your neighbors may in fact complain. It is probably best to leave him in your house if he is barking this much and is being a nuisance. Barking is an outlet for dogs. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. You did not mention taking him to training class or a training professional that could help with this solution. I am sure there are several in your area highly recommended. Sometimes the negative attention becomes something the dog will seek. Clicker training does lots for many dogs. Have you tried any clicker training? You could try by clicking the minute he quits barking and offering an immediate treat. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? Once it is a habit it can be hard to break but it can be done through much consistency and love. It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy Well there is the "Speak" and click and the "no speak" and click commands as well and you could try teaching him this. At this point it is important to start with "no speak" or any other simple command that means essentially that. Don't give the command first. Wait until he is quiet then click over treat say good "no speak". But hey I am sure you will get much better advice from the people on this NG that are trainers as a profession or hobby. I am not. I just love dogs and I do own a Malinois and Clovis does have this barking tendency as well. Good luck and hope many people hear give you advice much better than mine. I would seek a professional trainer if I were you. One that uses positive reinforcement methods, preferably. Gwen |
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Arizona Snoopy wrote: Hi, My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... Welcome and don't worry! I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, Not really similar at all. I have both and to me their personalities as well as drive and other things make them quite different. But originally I did think the above. if you aren't familiar with them. Very. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. Quite common in the breed. Clovis is so territorial she doesn't even like humans too close to me out in public. She is quite possessive. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). This is common as well of just about any breed of dog. Cats are sort of like prey you see. He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. Well all my dogs do this. Blade doesn't like knocking on the doors much but once a person enters they all greet with wagging tails. Unless you are my MIL and then Clovis hates her. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Are you leaving him outside during the day? This could definitely be a problem and your neighbors may in fact complain. It is probably best to leave him in your house if he is barking this much and is being a nuisance. Barking is an outlet for dogs. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. You did not mention taking him to training class or a training professional that could help with this solution. I am sure there are several in your area highly recommended. Sometimes the negative attention becomes something the dog will seek. Clicker training does lots for many dogs. Have you tried any clicker training? You could try by clicking the minute he quits barking and offering an immediate treat. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? Once it is a habit it can be hard to break but it can be done through much consistency and love. It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy Well there is the "Speak" and click and the "no speak" and click commands as well and you could try teaching him this. At this point it is important to start with "no speak" or any other simple command that means essentially that. Don't give the command first. Wait until he is quiet then click over treat say good "no speak". But hey I am sure you will get much better advice from the people on this NG that are trainers as a profession or hobby. I am not. I just love dogs and I do own a Malinois and Clovis does have this barking tendency as well. Good luck and hope many people hear give you advice much better than mine. I would seek a professional trainer if I were you. One that uses positive reinforcement methods, preferably. Gwen |
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Hi Gwen,
Just to answer your question - I never leave Kodiak outside. I don't believe in "outdoor" pets. Grew up on a farm, too, and we had lots of outdoor domestic animals - dogs and cats in addition to the horses and cows and sheep - but I now live in a big city and my cats and dog live inside with me. Thanks for the suggestions, though. I will check into training. -snoopy Gwen Watson wrote in message ... Arizona Snoopy wrote: Hi, My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... Welcome and don't worry! I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, Not really similar at all. I have both and to me their personalities as well as drive and other things make them quite different. But originally I did think the above. if you aren't familiar with them. Very. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. Quite common in the breed. Clovis is so territorial she doesn't even like humans too close to me out in public. She is quite possessive. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). This is common as well of just about any breed of dog. Cats are sort of like prey you see. He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. Well all my dogs do this. Blade doesn't like knocking on the doors much but once a person enters they all greet with wagging tails. Unless you are my MIL and then Clovis hates her. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Are you leaving him outside during the day? This could definitely be a problem and your neighbors may in fact complain. It is probably best to leave him in your house if he is barking this much and is being a nuisance. Barking is an outlet for dogs. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. You did not mention taking him to training class or a training professional that could help with this solution. I am sure there are several in your area highly recommended. Sometimes the negative attention becomes something the dog will seek. Clicker training does lots for many dogs. Have you tried any clicker training? You could try by clicking the minute he quits barking and offering an immediate treat. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? Once it is a habit it can be hard to break but it can be done through much consistency and love. It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy Well there is the "Speak" and click and the "no speak" and click commands as well and you could try teaching him this. At this point it is important to start with "no speak" or any other simple command that means essentially that. Don't give the command first. Wait until he is quiet then click over treat say good "no speak". But hey I am sure you will get much better advice from the people on this NG that are trainers as a profession or hobby. I am not. I just love dogs and I do own a Malinois and Clovis does have this barking tendency as well. Good luck and hope many people hear give you advice much better than mine. I would seek a professional trainer if I were you. One that uses positive reinforcement methods, preferably. Gwen |
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Hi Gwen,
Just to answer your question - I never leave Kodiak outside. I don't believe in "outdoor" pets. Grew up on a farm, too, and we had lots of outdoor domestic animals - dogs and cats in addition to the horses and cows and sheep - but I now live in a big city and my cats and dog live inside with me. Thanks for the suggestions, though. I will check into training. -snoopy Gwen Watson wrote in message ... Arizona Snoopy wrote: Hi, My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... Welcome and don't worry! I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, Not really similar at all. I have both and to me their personalities as well as drive and other things make them quite different. But originally I did think the above. if you aren't familiar with them. Very. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. Quite common in the breed. Clovis is so territorial she doesn't even like humans too close to me out in public. She is quite possessive. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). This is common as well of just about any breed of dog. Cats are sort of like prey you see. He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. Well all my dogs do this. Blade doesn't like knocking on the doors much but once a person enters they all greet with wagging tails. Unless you are my MIL and then Clovis hates her. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Are you leaving him outside during the day? This could definitely be a problem and your neighbors may in fact complain. It is probably best to leave him in your house if he is barking this much and is being a nuisance. Barking is an outlet for dogs. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. You did not mention taking him to training class or a training professional that could help with this solution. I am sure there are several in your area highly recommended. Sometimes the negative attention becomes something the dog will seek. Clicker training does lots for many dogs. Have you tried any clicker training? You could try by clicking the minute he quits barking and offering an immediate treat. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? Once it is a habit it can be hard to break but it can be done through much consistency and love. It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy Well there is the "Speak" and click and the "no speak" and click commands as well and you could try teaching him this. At this point it is important to start with "no speak" or any other simple command that means essentially that. Don't give the command first. Wait until he is quiet then click over treat say good "no speak". But hey I am sure you will get much better advice from the people on this NG that are trainers as a profession or hobby. I am not. I just love dogs and I do own a Malinois and Clovis does have this barking tendency as well. Good luck and hope many people hear give you advice much better than mine. I would seek a professional trainer if I were you. One that uses positive reinforcement methods, preferably. Gwen |
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Hi Gwen,
Just to answer your question - I never leave Kodiak outside. I don't believe in "outdoor" pets. Grew up on a farm, too, and we had lots of outdoor domestic animals - dogs and cats in addition to the horses and cows and sheep - but I now live in a big city and my cats and dog live inside with me. Thanks for the suggestions, though. I will check into training. -snoopy Gwen Watson wrote in message ... Arizona Snoopy wrote: Hi, My first post to a group, so I apologize in advance if I make a protocol mistake... Welcome and don't worry! I have a 5 year old Belgian Malinois - similar to a German Shepherd, Not really similar at all. I have both and to me their personalities as well as drive and other things make them quite different. But originally I did think the above. if you aren't familiar with them. Very. My dog, Kodiak, is a neutered male and is extremely territorial. Quite common in the breed. Clovis is so territorial she doesn't even like humans too close to me out in public. She is quite possessive. He barks his head off when he sees neighborhood cats outside (even though I have cats inside and he gets along with them just fine). This is common as well of just about any breed of dog. Cats are sort of like prey you see. He barks like crazy if someone rings the doorbell, and barks at the mailman, even though he sees him every day. Well all my dogs do this. Blade doesn't like knocking on the doors much but once a person enters they all greet with wagging tails. Unless you are my MIL and then Clovis hates her. I don't really mind the barking, but when he's in the (fenced) backyard, he barks at the cats that hang out on the fenceline, teasing him. I'm afraid my neighbors will start complaining. He has a very loud "police dog" bark that can be heard on the next block. Are you leaving him outside during the day? This could definitely be a problem and your neighbors may in fact complain. It is probably best to leave him in your house if he is barking this much and is being a nuisance. Barking is an outlet for dogs. Anyone know how to solve this? He even barks when he's inside and those cats are outside, and he won't stop. He gets so excited that he starts whining and running in circles. I've tried snapping my fingers, yelling at him, distracting him with a toy, tried squirting him with weak vinegar/water solution, and nothing has worked. You did not mention taking him to training class or a training professional that could help with this solution. I am sure there are several in your area highly recommended. Sometimes the negative attention becomes something the dog will seek. Clicker training does lots for many dogs. Have you tried any clicker training? You could try by clicking the minute he quits barking and offering an immediate treat. His vet says his breed is just very territorial and nothing to be done about it - that he perceives the cats on the fence to be threats to his environment. Has anyone any experience in teaching a dog not to bark? Once it is a habit it can be hard to break but it can be done through much consistency and love. It's particularly important to me that he DOES bark when it's appropriate - because I originally bought him for protection and a big dog is a great deterrent to people who might try to break in, etc. So I don't want to lose his bark altogether, but to teach him what is appropriate - or am I just dreaming.... Arizona Snoopy Well there is the "Speak" and click and the "no speak" and click commands as well and you could try teaching him this. At this point it is important to start with "no speak" or any other simple command that means essentially that. Don't give the command first. Wait until he is quiet then click over treat say good "no speak". But hey I am sure you will get much better advice from the people on this NG that are trainers as a profession or hobby. I am not. I just love dogs and I do own a Malinois and Clovis does have this barking tendency as well. Good luck and hope many people hear give you advice much better than mine. I would seek a professional trainer if I were you. One that uses positive reinforcement methods, preferably. Gwen |
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