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Old October 15th 03, 05:21 PM
Chloe's Mom
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First off - Chloe is not a biter. We don't have a problem with that.


She's got this funny way of playing though and I'm not sure if I play
with her if I'm promotingthe behavior, or if I should try to alter the
behavior and if so, how.

If I'm on the floor and she wants to play, she will come up to me and
try to gnaw on my arm. Not a bit, but to put my arm in her mouth.
I get on the floor and she will do some playful acts like paw at me,
nudge me w/ her head, etc. (mind you, she's a 50lb dog). If I put
my hands on the floor she'll lay down, and try to start nibbling at my
hands to get me to lift them up and play.

I start playing - and she will put my hand in her mouth - not to bite,
but to mouth. I'll pull my hand away and say "no bite".. she
pounces backwards, gets into that laydown "I wanna play" position and
start barking. I'll then say "Quiet" and I approach her she does the
run like a bat out of hell thing around the house. Then she repeats
the process.

Its hilarous and she gets good exercise and we usually end the session
w/ her laying on my lap and me petting her vigorously.

She does want to wrestle and play ruff soemtimes and wants to try to
get at my arm, which is when I say "no bite" and things start up
again. Its a game to her. She might also snip and pretend to bite
at me, but purposefully miss the hand. If I put my hand in her mouth,
she immediately stops and drops it out of her mouth without any
pressure. So, I know its all a game. ANd she loves to play it.

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the best way to
alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's in this mood to
wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with or a ball to go catch is
of no interest to her. She wants the vigorous play.
jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html
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Old October 15th 03, 05:41 PM
shelly
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Chloe's Mom wrote:

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the
best way to alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's
in this mood to wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with
or a ball to go catch is of no interest to her. She wants
the vigorous play.


i do something similar with harriet. we play bitey-hands.
what i did is put it on cue, so that she never puts her mouth
on people without being told it's okay. that way, even when
she wants to instigate that sort of play, she has to wait
until i give her the command or it's a no-go.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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Old October 15th 03, 05:41 PM
shelly
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Chloe's Mom wrote:

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the
best way to alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's
in this mood to wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with
or a ball to go catch is of no interest to her. She wants
the vigorous play.


i do something similar with harriet. we play bitey-hands.
what i did is put it on cue, so that she never puts her mouth
on people without being told it's okay. that way, even when
she wants to instigate that sort of play, she has to wait
until i give her the command or it's a no-go.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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Old October 15th 03, 05:41 PM
shelly
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Chloe's Mom wrote:

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the
best way to alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's
in this mood to wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with
or a ball to go catch is of no interest to her. She wants
the vigorous play.


i do something similar with harriet. we play bitey-hands.
what i did is put it on cue, so that she never puts her mouth
on people without being told it's okay. that way, even when
she wants to instigate that sort of play, she has to wait
until i give her the command or it's a no-go.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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Old October 15th 03, 05:41 PM
shelly
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Chloe's Mom wrote:

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the
best way to alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's
in this mood to wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with
or a ball to go catch is of no interest to her. She wants
the vigorous play.


i do something similar with harriet. we play bitey-hands.
what i did is put it on cue, so that she never puts her mouth
on people without being told it's okay. that way, even when
she wants to instigate that sort of play, she has to wait
until i give her the command or it's a no-go.

--
shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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Old October 15th 03, 11:14 PM
Tsetse
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I trained for a long time (all my dogs have been Dobes) with a very
successful and tough old trainer. Her rules along these lines were very
simple, "No teeth on human flesh at any time, at any age, for any reason!
When a pup (or, for instance, Siamese kitten) tries to play-bite, you don't
say 'No!', simply chuck him/her under the chin hard enough just to make the
jaws pop, and at the same time subtitute a "tuggy" of some sort. In not
time at all, when the pup wants to play, it will bring the tuggy over to
you, and in case you do have a breed with a reputation, you not only don't
have your own problems, but neither will you have hysterical parents/ and or
friends who believe they are being attacked, as the dog gets older. (Of
course, in the case of kittens, instead of chucking under the chin with the
thumb end of a vertical fist, you simply snap the kitten on the nose with a
finger.....our Siamese will tackle us on occasion when we walk by, or into a
room, but would never think of biting.....) And, by the way, when you play
with a tuggy, never let the dog "win". Always finish with dog giving the
tuggy to you........

"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
First off - Chloe is not a biter. We don't have a problem with that.


She's got this funny way of playing though and I'm not sure if I play
with her if I'm promotingthe behavior, or if I should try to alter the
behavior and if so, how.

If I'm on the floor and she wants to play, she will come up to me and
try to gnaw on my arm. Not a bit, but to put my arm in her mouth.
I get on the floor and she will do some playful acts like paw at me,
nudge me w/ her head, etc. (mind you, she's a 50lb dog). If I put
my hands on the floor she'll lay down, and try to start nibbling at my
hands to get me to lift them up and play.

I start playing - and she will put my hand in her mouth - not to bite,
but to mouth. I'll pull my hand away and say "no bite".. she
pounces backwards, gets into that laydown "I wanna play" position and
start barking. I'll then say "Quiet" and I approach her she does the
run like a bat out of hell thing around the house. Then she repeats
the process.

Its hilarous and she gets good exercise and we usually end the session
w/ her laying on my lap and me petting her vigorously.

She does want to wrestle and play ruff soemtimes and wants to try to
get at my arm, which is when I say "no bite" and things start up
again. Its a game to her. She might also snip and pretend to bite
at me, but purposefully miss the hand. If I put my hand in her mouth,
she immediately stops and drops it out of her mouth without any
pressure. So, I know its all a game. ANd she loves to play it.

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the best way to
alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's in this mood to
wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with or a ball to go catch is
of no interest to her. She wants the vigorous play.
jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html



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Old October 15th 03, 11:14 PM
Tsetse
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I trained for a long time (all my dogs have been Dobes) with a very
successful and tough old trainer. Her rules along these lines were very
simple, "No teeth on human flesh at any time, at any age, for any reason!
When a pup (or, for instance, Siamese kitten) tries to play-bite, you don't
say 'No!', simply chuck him/her under the chin hard enough just to make the
jaws pop, and at the same time subtitute a "tuggy" of some sort. In not
time at all, when the pup wants to play, it will bring the tuggy over to
you, and in case you do have a breed with a reputation, you not only don't
have your own problems, but neither will you have hysterical parents/ and or
friends who believe they are being attacked, as the dog gets older. (Of
course, in the case of kittens, instead of chucking under the chin with the
thumb end of a vertical fist, you simply snap the kitten on the nose with a
finger.....our Siamese will tackle us on occasion when we walk by, or into a
room, but would never think of biting.....) And, by the way, when you play
with a tuggy, never let the dog "win". Always finish with dog giving the
tuggy to you........

"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
First off - Chloe is not a biter. We don't have a problem with that.


She's got this funny way of playing though and I'm not sure if I play
with her if I'm promotingthe behavior, or if I should try to alter the
behavior and if so, how.

If I'm on the floor and she wants to play, she will come up to me and
try to gnaw on my arm. Not a bit, but to put my arm in her mouth.
I get on the floor and she will do some playful acts like paw at me,
nudge me w/ her head, etc. (mind you, she's a 50lb dog). If I put
my hands on the floor she'll lay down, and try to start nibbling at my
hands to get me to lift them up and play.

I start playing - and she will put my hand in her mouth - not to bite,
but to mouth. I'll pull my hand away and say "no bite".. she
pounces backwards, gets into that laydown "I wanna play" position and
start barking. I'll then say "Quiet" and I approach her she does the
run like a bat out of hell thing around the house. Then she repeats
the process.

Its hilarous and she gets good exercise and we usually end the session
w/ her laying on my lap and me petting her vigorously.

She does want to wrestle and play ruff soemtimes and wants to try to
get at my arm, which is when I say "no bite" and things start up
again. Its a game to her. She might also snip and pretend to bite
at me, but purposefully miss the hand. If I put my hand in her mouth,
she immediately stops and drops it out of her mouth without any
pressure. So, I know its all a game. ANd she loves to play it.

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the best way to
alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's in this mood to
wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with or a ball to go catch is
of no interest to her. She wants the vigorous play.
jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html



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Old October 15th 03, 11:14 PM
Tsetse
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I trained for a long time (all my dogs have been Dobes) with a very
successful and tough old trainer. Her rules along these lines were very
simple, "No teeth on human flesh at any time, at any age, for any reason!
When a pup (or, for instance, Siamese kitten) tries to play-bite, you don't
say 'No!', simply chuck him/her under the chin hard enough just to make the
jaws pop, and at the same time subtitute a "tuggy" of some sort. In not
time at all, when the pup wants to play, it will bring the tuggy over to
you, and in case you do have a breed with a reputation, you not only don't
have your own problems, but neither will you have hysterical parents/ and or
friends who believe they are being attacked, as the dog gets older. (Of
course, in the case of kittens, instead of chucking under the chin with the
thumb end of a vertical fist, you simply snap the kitten on the nose with a
finger.....our Siamese will tackle us on occasion when we walk by, or into a
room, but would never think of biting.....) And, by the way, when you play
with a tuggy, never let the dog "win". Always finish with dog giving the
tuggy to you........

"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
First off - Chloe is not a biter. We don't have a problem with that.


She's got this funny way of playing though and I'm not sure if I play
with her if I'm promotingthe behavior, or if I should try to alter the
behavior and if so, how.

If I'm on the floor and she wants to play, she will come up to me and
try to gnaw on my arm. Not a bit, but to put my arm in her mouth.
I get on the floor and she will do some playful acts like paw at me,
nudge me w/ her head, etc. (mind you, she's a 50lb dog). If I put
my hands on the floor she'll lay down, and try to start nibbling at my
hands to get me to lift them up and play.

I start playing - and she will put my hand in her mouth - not to bite,
but to mouth. I'll pull my hand away and say "no bite".. she
pounces backwards, gets into that laydown "I wanna play" position and
start barking. I'll then say "Quiet" and I approach her she does the
run like a bat out of hell thing around the house. Then she repeats
the process.

Its hilarous and she gets good exercise and we usually end the session
w/ her laying on my lap and me petting her vigorously.

She does want to wrestle and play ruff soemtimes and wants to try to
get at my arm, which is when I say "no bite" and things start up
again. Its a game to her. She might also snip and pretend to bite
at me, but purposefully miss the hand. If I put my hand in her mouth,
she immediately stops and drops it out of her mouth without any
pressure. So, I know its all a game. ANd she loves to play it.

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the best way to
alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's in this mood to
wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with or a ball to go catch is
of no interest to her. She wants the vigorous play.
jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html



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Old October 15th 03, 11:14 PM
Tsetse
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I trained for a long time (all my dogs have been Dobes) with a very
successful and tough old trainer. Her rules along these lines were very
simple, "No teeth on human flesh at any time, at any age, for any reason!
When a pup (or, for instance, Siamese kitten) tries to play-bite, you don't
say 'No!', simply chuck him/her under the chin hard enough just to make the
jaws pop, and at the same time subtitute a "tuggy" of some sort. In not
time at all, when the pup wants to play, it will bring the tuggy over to
you, and in case you do have a breed with a reputation, you not only don't
have your own problems, but neither will you have hysterical parents/ and or
friends who believe they are being attacked, as the dog gets older. (Of
course, in the case of kittens, instead of chucking under the chin with the
thumb end of a vertical fist, you simply snap the kitten on the nose with a
finger.....our Siamese will tackle us on occasion when we walk by, or into a
room, but would never think of biting.....) And, by the way, when you play
with a tuggy, never let the dog "win". Always finish with dog giving the
tuggy to you........

"Chloe's Mom" wrote in message
...
First off - Chloe is not a biter. We don't have a problem with that.


She's got this funny way of playing though and I'm not sure if I play
with her if I'm promotingthe behavior, or if I should try to alter the
behavior and if so, how.

If I'm on the floor and she wants to play, she will come up to me and
try to gnaw on my arm. Not a bit, but to put my arm in her mouth.
I get on the floor and she will do some playful acts like paw at me,
nudge me w/ her head, etc. (mind you, she's a 50lb dog). If I put
my hands on the floor she'll lay down, and try to start nibbling at my
hands to get me to lift them up and play.

I start playing - and she will put my hand in her mouth - not to bite,
but to mouth. I'll pull my hand away and say "no bite".. she
pounces backwards, gets into that laydown "I wanna play" position and
start barking. I'll then say "Quiet" and I approach her she does the
run like a bat out of hell thing around the house. Then she repeats
the process.

Its hilarous and she gets good exercise and we usually end the session
w/ her laying on my lap and me petting her vigorously.

She does want to wrestle and play ruff soemtimes and wants to try to
get at my arm, which is when I say "no bite" and things start up
again. Its a game to her. She might also snip and pretend to bite
at me, but purposefully miss the hand. If I put my hand in her mouth,
she immediately stops and drops it out of her mouth without any
pressure. So, I know its all a game. ANd she loves to play it.

Am I promoting bad behavior with this? if so - whats the best way to
alter the behavior. Let me say this - if she's in this mood to
wrestle - giving her a rope to play tug with or a ball to go catch is
of no interest to her. She wants the vigorous play.
jayjay
http://home.comcast.net/~jennifer.is...b/c_index.html



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Old October 15th 03, 11:59 PM
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I wouldn't encourage this kind of play. If kids want to play with her and she
engages in this, skin can get accidentally ripped. Also,

Not a bit, but to put my arm in her mouth.
I get on the floor and she will do some playful acts like paw at me,
nudge me w/ her head, etc.


She is being pushy and I don't like that. It can ever so gradually escalate to
where you will not like it as she gets pushier and pushier.

Try to teach her tug or retrieve. Unlike the other poster, my dogs can win the
tug game all the time, but they need to have an off switch - they have to stop
when I say stop. If they win, it makes it more fun for them and they always
come right back to interact more, which is a good thing.


 




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