Hi Everyone, Im new . Just Thought I'd Post My Link on my Chinese Crested
Dogs. I am a Breeder. Close to Toronto
www.cresteds.20fr.com

Michelle

Michelle said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:

Hi Everyone, Im new . Just Thought I'd Post My Link on my
Chinese Crested Dogs. I am a Breeder. Close to Toronto

Can you point me to your health testing page, especially your
results for patella luxation? I can't find it.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Just wonderered - I can't seem to work out which pup you kept from the
August 2003 litter & why it is so outstanding at only 7 months that you've
repeated the mating?

"Michelle" wrote in message
news
Hi Everyone, Im new . Just Thought I'd Post My Link on my Chinese Crested
Dogs. I am a Breeder. Close to Toronto
www.cresteds.20fr.com

Michelle

Apologies -I see it's the baby powderpuff.

Still doesn't explain why a repeat mating & why so soon?

I'm surprised the Canadian Kennel Club allows registrations for litters so
close together.

Sue

"Sue" wrote in message
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Just wonderered - I can't seem to work out which pup you kept from the
August 2003 litter & why it is so outstanding at only 7 months that you've
repeated the mating?

What attracted you to this particular breed of dog?
I had never even heard of a Chinese crested dog.

Michelle wrote:

Hi Everyone, Im new . Just Thought I'd Post My Link on my Chinese Crested
Dogs. I am a Breeder. Close to Toronto
www.cresteds.20fr.com

Michelle

Michelle wrote:

Hi Everyone, Im new . Just Thought I'd Post My Link on my Chinese Crested
Dogs. I am a Breeder. Close to Toronto
www.cresteds.20fr.com

Michelle




Are you ready for the onslaught?

When the ancient war dogs did battle on Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:54:27
-0600, diddy did speak the following bit of
wisdom:

"Sue" wrote in
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Apologies -I see it's the baby powderpuff.

Still doesn't explain why a repeat mating & why so soon?

I'm surprised the Canadian Kennel Club allows registrations for
litters so close together.

Sue

The American Kennel Club does as well.

I've heard (right in this group, actually) that this is the new
thinking. That a normal, healthy bitch is better off having all her
litters fairly close together and then be spayed rather than skip a
year in between each litter and stretch out her reproductive life.

Still doesn't explain why the OP has no health info on her site...
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wrote in
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When the ancient war dogs did battle on Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:54:27
-0600, diddy did speak the following bit of
wisdom:

"Sue" wrote in
:

Apologies -I see it's the baby powderpuff.

Still doesn't explain why a repeat mating & why so soon?

I'm surprised the Canadian Kennel Club allows registrations for
litters so close together.

Sue

The American Kennel Club does as well.

I've heard (right in this group, actually) that this is the new
thinking. That a normal, healthy bitch is better off having all her
litters fairly close together and then be spayed rather than skip a
year in between each litter and stretch out her reproductive life.

Still doesn't explain why the OP has no health info on her site...
My vet says back to back breedings are better for the bitch. Then spay
early.
He heard this from Dr Robert Hutchinson, one of the top canine repro guys
in the world.
breed two to three times in succession THEN SPAY!
(people forget the spay part)

She does post eye information, but that's it

"diddy" wrote in message
...

My vet says back to back breedings are better for the bitch. Then spay
early.
He heard this from Dr Robert Hutchinson, one of the top canine repro guys
in the world.
breed two to three times in succession THEN SPAY!
(people forget the spay part)

She does post eye information, but that's it

"Better" of course being relative. The Hutchinson theory is that back to
back breedings are better for the bitch's reproductive health, in that you
get more litters earlier and are more likely to get larger litters (as
litters tend to get smaller as the bitch ages.) The actual existence of the
bitch outside her reproductive tract isn't really taken into consideration.
Hopefully, breeders using this method are doing it in moderation, and taking
into account the condition of the bitch, then placing the bitch into a pet
home young. Unfortunately, it may be taken by some as an excuse to breed,
breed, breed without considering either the physical or psychological
condition of the bitch. It also has drawbacks in that it is difficult to
gauge the quality of the litter before producing subsequent ones. Obviously,
it needs to be used as a tool in a breeding program, and a breeder shouldn't
be judged solely on their choice to breed back to back litters, but instead
the program as a whole should be considered.
That said, this breeder's website is seriously lacking. There is nothing but
filler, no substance to indicate responsible breeding practices.

Christy

"Christy" wrote in
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"diddy" wrote in message
...

My vet says back to back breedings are better for the bitch. Then
spay early.
He heard this from Dr Robert Hutchinson, one of the top canine repro
guys in the world.
breed two to three times in succession THEN SPAY!
(people forget the spay part)

She does post eye information, but that's it

"Better" of course being relative. The Hutchinson theory is that back
to back breedings are better for the bitch's reproductive health, in
that you get more litters earlier and are more likely to get larger
litters (as litters tend to get smaller as the bitch ages.) The actual
existence of the bitch outside her reproductive tract isn't really
taken into consideration. Hopefully, breeders using this method are
doing it in moderation, and taking into account the condition of the
bitch, then placing the bitch into a pet home young. Unfortunately, it
may be taken by some as an excuse to breed, breed, breed without
considering either the physical or psychological condition of the
bitch. It also has drawbacks in that it is difficult to gauge the
quality of the litter before producing subsequent ones. Obviously, it
needs to be used as a tool in a breeding program, and a breeder
shouldn't be judged solely on their choice to breed back to back
litters, but instead the program as a whole should be considered.
That said, this breeder's website is seriously lacking. There is
nothing but filler, no substance to indicate responsible breeding
practices.

Christy



And if you read about back to back successive breedings by Diplomate
American College of Theriogenologists. Of course, the purpose of breeding
back to back and then spaying is to shorten the long period of high
progesterones. If you continue to breed back to back, you wear down the
bitch and still expose her to continual long period of high progesterones.
You breed one to three consecutive breedings... and then SPAY.

here is an excerpt from one site:
http://www.thedogplace.com/library/articles149.htm

In the bitch, false pregnancy, occurring as a result of the long period of
high progesterone, is a normal hormonal event.

So hormonally, the bitch -thinks- she’s pregnant every time she experiences
estrus (heat) even if she has not been within a mile of a male. In
addition to false pregnancy, this _hormonal pregnancy_ has other, more
serious ramifications to canine reproduction, namely PYOMETRA. Pyometra is
a uterine infection so extensive that pus accumulates within the lumen of
the uterus. A uterus with pyometra can contain gallons of pus. This severe
uterine infection occurs only when the bitch is in her long diestral phase
and the uterus is being exposed to high levels of progesterone.

How does this happen? The bitch’s ability to ward off infection in her
uterus is highest during estrus when estrogen levels are high. This makes
sense because this is the time when her reproductive tract is being exposed
to a multitude of pathogens (and for any that doubt, just take a look at
the end of your dog’s penis). It’s a miracle that the uterus can eliminate
billions of bacteria without harming the delicate sperm cells.

In contrast, uterine defense mechanisms are minimal while under the
influence of progesterone when the uterus -thinks- it is pregnant. It is
helpful (albeit an over-simplification) to think that when a bitch
conceives and becomes pregnant, the uterine immune defense systems must be
turned -off- so that the antigenically foreign conceptuses are not
destroyed. If this did not happen, then the embryos would be rejected and
destroyed in much the same manner as rejection occurs in mismatched organ
transplants. When the uterus -thinks- it is pregnant, it fiercely protects
whatever lies therein. And that whatever could be puppies in the case of a
normal pregnancy, or it could also be pus in the case of a pyometra.

In other species (human, horse, cow sheep, goat, pig,and cat to name a
few), progesterone levels drops after about two weeks of diestrus if the
female does not become pregnant. Once progesterone levels are low, the
_off_ switch is released, uterine defenses gear up and the uterus can
clear itself of any pathogens. In the bitch, however, uterine defense
systems remain _off_ for a much longer period of time (45 days or longer).
When pathogens invade the uterus and are not removed during estrus, they
are protected within the uterus and allowed to multiple for the entire
diestral period.
This explains why we see pyometra commonly in the bitch and rarely in the
other domestic species.



Following along with the idea that the prolonged diestral period in the
bitch can be deleterious, some specialists recommend estrus suppression
except when the bitch is to be bred. When you prevent a bitch from coming
into heat, then you also avoid the long diestral period that inevitably
follows. Remember that hormonally, the bitch has experienced three or four
pregnancies before she is ever bred for the first time. An argument can be
made that these pregnancies place a lot of wear and tear on the uterus. The
rationale for continual estrus suppression is that by preventing estrus,
the bitch’s hormonal pregnancy can be prevented each time, and the bitch’s
reproductive lifespan can be prolonged. Unfortunately, the drug (also a
hormone) use for this purpose has recently been withdrawn from the market
and is no longer available.