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Old December 9th 03, 07:32 AM
Leah
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Why is it sometimes so hard to get little dogs to down?

I never see a problem with the big guys, just the little tykes. There's
usually at least one in every class who takes weeks to get into a down and
doesn't pop back up into a standing position when he's almost down there.

Other than physically manipulating them into the position, do you have any
suggestions for how to coerce these little stinkers into a down? I've tried
luring under an upraised leg, using different surfaces (i.e., a dog bed instead
of the cold floor), using power treats to lure while backing them up against a
wall (they normally skitter backwards also). Some will get it, some won't.

I've yet to have one who wouldn't down at all ever, but one didn't get it until
the last week of class.

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Old December 9th 03, 07:43 AM
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"Leah" -OFF wrote in message
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Why is it sometimes so hard to get little dogs to down?

I never see a problem with the big guys, just the little tykes. There's
usually at least one in every class who takes weeks to get into a down and
doesn't pop back up into a standing position when he's almost down there.

Other than physically manipulating them into the position, do you have any
suggestions for how to coerce these little stinkers into a down? I've

tried
luring under an upraised leg, using different surfaces (i.e., a dog bed

instead
of the cold floor), using power treats to lure while backing them up

against a
wall (they normally skitter backwards also). Some will get it, some

won't.

We have experienced the same phenonmenon.
Either I think they are closer to the ground and the difference between
stand and lie down isn't understandable, or down is just too threatening to
a little dog in a new place.

A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.

worked quite well.


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Old December 9th 03, 07:43 AM
Child
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"Leah" -OFF wrote in message
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Why is it sometimes so hard to get little dogs to down?

I never see a problem with the big guys, just the little tykes. There's
usually at least one in every class who takes weeks to get into a down and
doesn't pop back up into a standing position when he's almost down there.

Other than physically manipulating them into the position, do you have any
suggestions for how to coerce these little stinkers into a down? I've

tried
luring under an upraised leg, using different surfaces (i.e., a dog bed

instead
of the cold floor), using power treats to lure while backing them up

against a
wall (they normally skitter backwards also). Some will get it, some

won't.

We have experienced the same phenonmenon.
Either I think they are closer to the ground and the difference between
stand and lie down isn't understandable, or down is just too threatening to
a little dog in a new place.

A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.

worked quite well.


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Old December 9th 03, 07:43 AM
Child
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"Leah" -OFF wrote in message
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Why is it sometimes so hard to get little dogs to down?

I never see a problem with the big guys, just the little tykes. There's
usually at least one in every class who takes weeks to get into a down and
doesn't pop back up into a standing position when he's almost down there.

Other than physically manipulating them into the position, do you have any
suggestions for how to coerce these little stinkers into a down? I've

tried
luring under an upraised leg, using different surfaces (i.e., a dog bed

instead
of the cold floor), using power treats to lure while backing them up

against a
wall (they normally skitter backwards also). Some will get it, some

won't.

We have experienced the same phenonmenon.
Either I think they are closer to the ground and the difference between
stand and lie down isn't understandable, or down is just too threatening to
a little dog in a new place.

A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.

worked quite well.


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Old December 9th 03, 02:29 PM
Gwen Watson
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Child wrote:

We have experienced the same phenonmenon.
Either I think they are closer to the ground and the difference between
stand and lie down isn't understandable, or down is just too threatening to
a little dog in a new place.

A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.

worked quite well.


Beth I know I mentioned to you that Reznor took much longer to
"down". But one day he just did it. All along that little stinker
knew exactly what I was asking him to do. But I do think
it has to do with they are already so low to the ground
that a "down" just doesn't seem like the right request.

I really am not sure of this, since I am not a trainer
and would love to hear others opinions on this
manner. Like Janet's, LynnK's and Diane B.

He knows it very well now. And just falls to the ground
when asked. Now to get him to stay in that position.
But I admit I haven't worked hard enough with that
yet.

Gwen


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Old December 9th 03, 02:29 PM
Gwen Watson
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Child wrote:

We have experienced the same phenonmenon.
Either I think they are closer to the ground and the difference between
stand and lie down isn't understandable, or down is just too threatening to
a little dog in a new place.

A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.

worked quite well.


Beth I know I mentioned to you that Reznor took much longer to
"down". But one day he just did it. All along that little stinker
knew exactly what I was asking him to do. But I do think
it has to do with they are already so low to the ground
that a "down" just doesn't seem like the right request.

I really am not sure of this, since I am not a trainer
and would love to hear others opinions on this
manner. Like Janet's, LynnK's and Diane B.

He knows it very well now. And just falls to the ground
when asked. Now to get him to stay in that position.
But I admit I haven't worked hard enough with that
yet.

Gwen


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Old December 9th 03, 02:29 PM
Gwen Watson
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Child wrote:

We have experienced the same phenonmenon.
Either I think they are closer to the ground and the difference between
stand and lie down isn't understandable, or down is just too threatening to
a little dog in a new place.

A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.

worked quite well.


Beth I know I mentioned to you that Reznor took much longer to
"down". But one day he just did it. All along that little stinker
knew exactly what I was asking him to do. But I do think
it has to do with they are already so low to the ground
that a "down" just doesn't seem like the right request.

I really am not sure of this, since I am not a trainer
and would love to hear others opinions on this
manner. Like Janet's, LynnK's and Diane B.

He knows it very well now. And just falls to the ground
when asked. Now to get him to stay in that position.
But I admit I haven't worked hard enough with that
yet.

Gwen


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Old December 9th 03, 03:04 PM
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
Child wrote:
A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.
worked quite well.


For, say, a husky-sized dog, kneel on one leg and form a
right angle to the floor with the other, then lure the dog
through. I actually haven't found it to be more effective
than a plain old lure to the ground.
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Old December 9th 03, 03:04 PM
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
Child wrote:
A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.
worked quite well.


For, say, a husky-sized dog, kneel on one leg and form a
right angle to the floor with the other, then lure the dog
through. I actually haven't found it to be more effective
than a plain old lure to the ground.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

The US national debt is growing by $23,765.00 a second
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Old December 9th 03, 03:04 PM
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
Child wrote:
A technique i used that i read online somewhere involved luring the dog
under your leg with a treat. Leg should be low enough to the ground that
dog must lie down to get the treat.
worked quite well.


For, say, a husky-sized dog, kneel on one leg and form a
right angle to the floor with the other, then lure the dog
through. I actually haven't found it to be more effective
than a plain old lure to the ground.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

The US national debt is growing by $23,765.00 a second
 




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