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Adult dog, new pup, What is normal play?
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We have a five yr. old female beagle, and we just added an 8 wk old male pup to our happy family. Tink (the female) is a well behaved, loving dog. Your typical beagle, she's a gem. She knows her place is at the bottom of the pack and we have never had any dominance problems with her. We have always been a one dog family (bigger dogs in the past) so we have no experience with multiples. What should we expect in terms of play between Tink and Scout. How rough can it get, and what /when should we intervene and stop it . Our vet said that as long as they don't hurt each other, bristle or bar their teeth we should not worry much. But that really doesn't help my "new mom" jitters. As of yet we have not determined who should be alpha between the two of them and would appreciate any advice you can give us. Our goal is to establish a happy ³pack² of two, for the time being. I cannot rule out adopting or buying another beagle in the future. They have stolen my heart as a breed. TIA, Nora, Tinkerbelle and Scout. |
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"NGCamacho" wrote in message ... What should we expect in terms of play between Tink and Scout. How rough can it get, and what /when should we intervene and stop it . Our vet said that as long as they don't hurt each other, bristle or bar their teeth we should not worry much. But that really doesn't help my "new mom" jitters. As of yet we have not determined who should be alpha between the two of them and would appreciate any advice you can give us. Our goal is to establish a happy ³pack² of two, for the time being. I cannot rule out adopting or buying another beagle in the future. They have stolen my heart as a breed. Our two, Lab mix and a German Shepherd, sound like War of the Worlds. Snarling, bared teeth, body slams, racing madly around the yard. You would expect them to come in bloody,possbily missing a limb, but no one has ever had a scratch. As long as no one is bleeding and both dogs are equally joining in the play, let them go. But I would always keep an eye on them. With our two, we seperate them if they get to out of control (too loud, too rough, etc) Now, just telling them "Calm down" will seperate them for a few. But they always go right back at it. Just watch them closely and you will soon be able to tell how serious they are. |
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"NGCamacho" wrote in message ... What should we expect in terms of play between Tink and Scout. How rough can it get, and what /when should we intervene and stop it . Our vet said that as long as they don't hurt each other, bristle or bar their teeth we should not worry much. But that really doesn't help my "new mom" jitters. As of yet we have not determined who should be alpha between the two of them and would appreciate any advice you can give us. Our goal is to establish a happy ³pack² of two, for the time being. I cannot rule out adopting or buying another beagle in the future. They have stolen my heart as a breed. Our two, Lab mix and a German Shepherd, sound like War of the Worlds. Snarling, bared teeth, body slams, racing madly around the yard. You would expect them to come in bloody,possbily missing a limb, but no one has ever had a scratch. As long as no one is bleeding and both dogs are equally joining in the play, let them go. But I would always keep an eye on them. With our two, we seperate them if they get to out of control (too loud, too rough, etc) Now, just telling them "Calm down" will seperate them for a few. But they always go right back at it. Just watch them closely and you will soon be able to tell how serious they are. |
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"NGCamacho" wrote in message ... What should we expect in terms of play between Tink and Scout. How rough can it get, and what /when should we intervene and stop it . Our vet said that as long as they don't hurt each other, bristle or bar their teeth we should not worry much. But that really doesn't help my "new mom" jitters. As of yet we have not determined who should be alpha between the two of them and would appreciate any advice you can give us. Our goal is to establish a happy ³pack² of two, for the time being. I cannot rule out adopting or buying another beagle in the future. They have stolen my heart as a breed. Our two, Lab mix and a German Shepherd, sound like War of the Worlds. Snarling, bared teeth, body slams, racing madly around the yard. You would expect them to come in bloody,possbily missing a limb, but no one has ever had a scratch. As long as no one is bleeding and both dogs are equally joining in the play, let them go. But I would always keep an eye on them. With our two, we seperate them if they get to out of control (too loud, too rough, etc) Now, just telling them "Calm down" will seperate them for a few. But they always go right back at it. Just watch them closely and you will soon be able to tell how serious they are. |
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"NGCamacho" wrote in message ... What should we expect in terms of play between Tink and Scout. How rough can it get, and what /when should we intervene and stop it . Our vet said that as long as they don't hurt each other, bristle or bar their teeth we should not worry much. But that really doesn't help my "new mom" jitters. As of yet we have not determined who should be alpha between the two of them and would appreciate any advice you can give us. Our goal is to establish a happy ³pack² of two, for the time being. I cannot rule out adopting or buying another beagle in the future. They have stolen my heart as a breed. Our two, Lab mix and a German Shepherd, sound like War of the Worlds. Snarling, bared teeth, body slams, racing madly around the yard. You would expect them to come in bloody,possbily missing a limb, but no one has ever had a scratch. As long as no one is bleeding and both dogs are equally joining in the play, let them go. But I would always keep an eye on them. With our two, we seperate them if they get to out of control (too loud, too rough, etc) Now, just telling them "Calm down" will seperate them for a few. But they always go right back at it. Just watch them closely and you will soon be able to tell how serious they are. |
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Beagles are not very interested in pack order. They are bred to live
cooperatively in large packs. If they are changing places, having fun, all should be ok. If one seems intimidated or bullied, then you should interrupt, have them settle down. |
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Beagles are not very interested in pack order. They are bred to live
cooperatively in large packs. If they are changing places, having fun, all should be ok. If one seems intimidated or bullied, then you should interrupt, have them settle down. |
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Beagles are not very interested in pack order. They are bred to live
cooperatively in large packs. If they are changing places, having fun, all should be ok. If one seems intimidated or bullied, then you should interrupt, have them settle down. |
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Beagles are not very interested in pack order. They are bred to live
cooperatively in large packs. If they are changing places, having fun, all should be ok. If one seems intimidated or bullied, then you should interrupt, have them settle down. |
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"NGCamacho" wrote in message ... Hi. We have a five yr. old female beagle, and we just added an 8 wk old male pup to our happy family. Tink (the female) is a well behaved, loving dog. Your typical beagle, she's a gem. She knows her place is at the bottom of the pack and we have never had any dominance problems with her. We have always been a one dog family (bigger dogs in the past) so we have no experience with multiples. It's a fun adventure, watching two dogs playing together. You should be in for a lot of laughs. :-) What should we expect in terms of play between Tink and Scout. How rough can it get, and what /when should we intervene and stop it . Our vet said that as long as they don't hurt each other, bristle or bar their teeth we should not worry much. But that really doesn't help my "new mom" jitters. Sometimes they will hurt each other on accident (I have two that think they are jet fighter pilots, dive-bombing each other outside, but it's all in play & fun). And, they are *always* showing their teeth, chewing on each other & making a really loud fuss of noise. Mainly, it comes down to you watching and making sure that the older dog isn't playing too rough for the puppy to handle. The puppy will most likely play too rough for your older girl to handle, it's all about him experimenting and learning what she'll tolerate and what she won't. She should be allowed to express her dislike for what he's doing if she needs to, but you need to be able to watch & make sure her "punishment" isn't over the top. Most dogs have a natural way of knowing how far to go, and don't cross over that line. Some, however do not, that's where your intervention is important. You should also provide both of them "time outs" now & then, just so they can get a break and a rest from each other. One thing to think of, though, is to be sure to have one on one time with each of them. The puppy will most likely easily bond to your girl dog. It's up to you to take the initiative and bond with your puppy by short, simple training sessions with just the two of you. It's very natural for two dogs, especially if one or both is a puppy, to bond very closely and exclude their humans in some ways. You allow when they play and when they don't by teaching a command such as "That's enough." It will come in handy when you're trying to eat, or watch TV, or have visitors over without two "Wild Dogs of the Tundra" flying through your living room! :-) As of yet we have not determined who should be alpha between the two of them and would appreciate any advice you can give us. Our goal is to establish a happy ³pack² of two, for the time being. I cannot rule out adopting or buying another beagle in the future. They have stolen my heart as a breed. Well, the determining of who among the two of them is really not something you can do. It should be a natural thing for the two of them, and most likely your girl, because of her age, will be the dominant dog. Do not forget about her with the new puppy, and remembering that, for now anyway, she is the leader among the two of them will help things run smoothly. Don't let the puppy take over her food dish, feed her first, greet her first. As they age, the power may shift, but chances are pretty good that she will remain his superior. By that time, you'll have a good idea of what's appropriate behavior for them, and what's not. Here is a good article, not dealing specifically with a puppy/dog situation, but an article I've always liked: http://www.mmilani.com/canine_pack_structure.html Good luck, and have fun with your new puppy, and with watching them play! I always get a good laugh out of the two of my guys. One is currently 4 years old, the other 15 months. Like your two will be, they are size-matched very well, weighing within 10 lbs of each other and roughly the same height. Sometimes it can sound like an earthquake is ripping through our house when they are playing, but all it takes is one resounding, "Knock it off!" and they run to me and settle a bit! Shelly & The Boys: Coda (4 yr old Collie-somethin') Bodhi (15 mos. old Belgian Sheepdog) |
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