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Dangers lurking in the grass
My 13 year old dog is recovering from pyopneumothorax resulting from a
grass seed that started when it embedded in his coat, penetrated his skin, threaded through his muscles, and partially collapsed his lung. He has a heavy coat, and the only reason we knew something was wrong, was because he did not play basketball with my puppy. When he refused to move and preferred to watch. He seemed bright and very alert, just reluctant to move.I picked up the phone and called the vet and asked if I could get him in for a checkup. His surgery was scheduled the next morning (Thursday) We are now day three post surgery. Here he is: http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/surgery/ Danny seems to be recovering uneventfully. He's very stiff and sore, but he's tough. I found this on the web. and grass seeds are NOT to be taken lightly. They can kill, and nearly killed my own dog. http://www.braggcreekanihosp.com/tales/grass_awns.htm Grass Awns & Foxtails It's grass awn season again! (Grass awns, you say? What are grass awns?) Firstly, we aren't going hunting for them out in the wild, and, secondly, we aren't looking to cook them! Grass awns are the dry seed coats of ripened grasses such as foxtails, spear grass,or barley. They cause a host of problems in our pets. These vegetative objects can in fact kill your dog. They act a little bit like porcupine quills as they stick into things and migrate deeper and deeper. Dogs like to run in fields and like to chew grass. Up until this time, the wild grasses have been succulent and moist. Now that they are ripe and dry, they latch on and hold tight. If swallowed, they stick in to the throat, especially in the tonsillar region and create inflammation and infection. Symptoms would be gulping and swallowing with coughing, retching, and gagging typical symptoms of a sore throat. Sometimes we can visualize the barbs in the throat, but usually we have to give an anesthetic to completely relax the throat muscles. They have to be asleep for us to grasp the awns and remove them. Other locations that we commonly find grass awns are between the toes, in the ears, and in "armpits" and in the groin. Between the toes we find a lump that forms with a discharge. The dog licks at it compulsively. Sometimes we are lucky to have a co-operative patient and a simple exploration with a hemostat will find the culprit. Otherwise, we have to open up the swelling to get a complete look. Once the awn is removed, healing is usually uneventful. When lodged in other parts of the body, the awns can be more dangerous. I have seen them go through the skin of the chest and migrate into the lung. There it sets up an abscess which can be life threatening. Recently, a dog came in with a draining sore over its abdominal spine. We followed the trail where the drainage was originating into the chest cavity under the armpit before we found the foxtail. Grass awns have also lodged into bones of the spine causing arthritic problems in the back. Part of the problem with these things is that they carry bacteria and soil fungi with them on their journey. Sometimes it is these organisms that cause serious illness more than the presence of the plant material itself. What can you do to help? Keep your long coated breeds well groomed. Daily inspection while grooming will often allow you to remove unwanted objects. After a run outside, or a hunting trip, carefully inspect between your dog's toes, in the armpits and groin, and look into his ears. Try to discourage him from chewing the grasses late in the summer and into fall. If you see a seed or barb stuck into the skin, carefully pull it out making sure not to break it off. If you wait until you can get the dog in to your vet, it may already have migrated under the skin from the dog's movement. If you suspect that your dog has been eating grass and has a problem in its throat, don't play "wait and see". It only gets worse with time and harder to find them all. Get to your veterinarian as soon as possible. For more information about this problem, give us a call! DR. BRUCE A. RODGER, DVM and then this (has some illustrations on the web page.) http://rbcm1.rbcm.gov.bc.ca/nh_paper.../menacing.html Natural History Menacing Hitchhikers -Heather Stewart, Botanist- Royal British Columbia Museum As a dog owner I have noticed that small hitchhikers of the plant kind seem determined to attach themselves to my dog's various body parts, like paws or the soft inner snout. Some of these hitchhikers are merely a nuisance, dropping onto floors and furniture, but others can create serious health problems and even surgery. I'm talking about the grass sometimes called "Speargrass". There are many types of grass that could fit into this general category. These grasses share similar characteristics, particularly the long awns. An awn is a long, stiff, sometimes-barbed, projection at the top end of the grass seed. The part of the grass seed that accomplishes the initial hook can either be the awn or the "callus" -- a hard projection at the base of the grass floret that attaches the grass seed to the stem. The long, narrow grass seeds are dispersed by snagging on a moving object. This may sound harmless enough, except that if snagged on an animal and not detected, the seed moves along the hair toward the skin and the callus can cause a lesion and work its way into the soft tissue: once there, the grass can cause infection in the animal and may have to be removed surgically. The species of Speargrass encountered largely depends on the region in which it is found. In the Interior of British Columbia, Speargrass can refer to Needle-and-Thread grasses (Stipa comata), Squirreltail Grass (Elymus elymoides) and Three-awn Grass (Aristida longiseta). Needle-and-Thread Grass has long, twisted awns that may reach up to 15 cm long. Three-awn Grass is as formidable as it sounds: the awn splits into three long points, and it has a hard dartlike callus. Squirreltail has a very dense inflorescence due to a doubling of the number of seeds at each node. These native grasses are usually found on dry, rocky grassland sites at low to mid-elevations. Interior First Nation's children played games with Needle-and-Thread Grass, throwing them as darts. Elsewhere in British Columbia, Speargrass is most likely to be one of two types: low-growing long-awned Bromes (Bromus tectorum, Bromus rigidus or Bromus sterilis) or Wild barley. All three of the Bromes have a droopy, long-awned, but not dense inflorescence, and are weedy, introduced species common in Southern British Columbia. The low Brome grasses grow along the edges of fields, in disturbed sites or along beach and lake edges. Wild Barley or Foxtail (Hordeum brachyantherum or Hordeum jubatum) are weedy native species with a dense, bristly inflorescence. The long-barbed bristles originate at the base of the grass seed and are in addition to the long awns on the seed cover and hard callus. It is a very prickly-looking grass seed. When mature Barley is picked, the stem often falls apart and the grass seeds look like feathery darts (some people call them "flea darts"). The Barleys grow in a wide range of sites from moist meadows, ditches and marsh edges to disturbed urban settings. For veterinarians, long-awned grasses are a common problem, especially when they are in seed. What can pet owners do to prevent problems? In the late summer when grass seeds "head up" or appear ripe, it is wise to refrain from walking in long grass. Stick to the trails and walk with your pet on a leash. A good rule of thumb is, if you have grass seed in your socks after a walk your dog likely has seed on/in its coat. Check your pet's paws regularly from August to November for signs of lesions or infection; and keep "feathering" short. If you do notice a swelling or cystlike lump on your pet's body, I recommend you take your pet to the vet at once. Although this is something that deserves your attention as a pet owner, if you follow the advice above this should not deter you from enjoying the outdoors with your pet! *** And then there is this snippet.. regarding recovery. Makes me wonder if Danny is REALLY out of the woods.. or not. http://www.vetsurg.com/Newsletter2000.html The thoracic form of infection occurs when a grass awn migrates via the lung tissue into the thoracic cavity. Dogs may present with a dry, non-productive cough, or simply be presented for exercise intolerance. Symptoms may be gradual in onset, especially in highly trained, athletic dogs. Chest radiographs may demonstrate fluid within the chest cavity (pyothorax) with a mass or masses within the lung lobe(s). Recently, I have seen two cases with a diffuse bronchointerstitial pneumonia rather than a mass lesion and pyothorax. Thoracocentesis in cases with pyothorax demonstrates a consistently foul-smelling, "tomato soup-like" fluid which is usually a greyish-yellow to reddish-brown in color. Granules may be noted in the fluid. When submitting cultures, be sure to notify the lab you are looking specifically for Actino/Nocardia infection as special culture media and a prolonged culture duration is required. Thoracotomy is usually indicated, with aggressive surgical debridement plus/minus lobectomy. Mortality rates of approximately 50% may be expected. Conservative treatment is not effective. The cutaneous form is the other frequent manifestation of disease that we see. It may be characterized by a draining tract on the extremities, but more often we see a large abscess-type lesion on the thoracic wall, or just caudal to the last rib on the abdominal wall. Draining the abscess rarely results in a cure. Surgical exploration with aggressive debridement is needed. Identification of a foreign body markedly improves the odds of success, with success rates of 90% expected if a foreign body is found. Recurrent infection, or persistent low-grade infection may be noted. Aggressive, long-term antimicrobial therapy is needed. Since the organisms are difficult to culture, treatment many times must be done in the absence of a definitive culture and sensitivity finding. Combination therapy with penicillin/amoxicillin plus sulfa-trimethroprim for one month is suggested. Alternatively, 11 mg/kg clindamycin BID, used for 30 days, is appropriate based upon recent communication with a veterinary microbiologist. Cost or side effects may dictate antibiotic choice. Awareness, early detection, and aggressive treatment of these infections improves success rates dramatically. Hopefully, this will serve to heighten the suspicion and recognition of Actinomyces and Nocardia infection. (Danny's fluids were cultured and sent to a lab to confirm this, and his awn WAS recovered) Doc also did aggressive debridement of the area (I told you he removed over a pound) So I feel really good about this. Danny's spirits are MUCH better than they were before the surgery, before I knew something was wrong. Jeff knew he was off. but thought it was his combination of old age + broken shoulder. It sounds as if my vet read this before doing his surgery, but in fact, He didn't know what we had until he got into and found the tomato soupy stinky stuff. Danny WAS breathing funny, but we thought it was the heat/old age factor. We both expected him to improve when we got him to the mountains in 4 weeks. (Jeff was angry because he had NOT taken an xray before doing surgery. Danny had xrays of his chest taken in May, we thought going in, that he was having complications from his broken shoulder bone splinter. Xrays weren't necessary and it was a cost saving effort on my already over strained budget. Guess it was a short cut we should have not taken, except I doubt it would have turned out differently.) ****** NICE illustration and description http://www.vet.purdue.edu/depts/addl/toxic/plant01.htm |
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diddy wrote:
My 13 year old dog is recovering from pyopneumothorax resulting from a grass seed that started when it embedded in his coat, penetrated his skin, threaded through his muscles, and partially collapsed his lung. He has a heavy coat, and the only reason we knew something was wrong, was because he did not play basketball with my puppy. When he refused to move and preferred to watch. He seemed bright and very alert, just reluctant to move.I picked up the phone and called the vet and asked if I could get him in for a checkup. His surgery was scheduled the next morning (Thursday) We are now day three post surgery. Here he is: http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/surgery/ Danny seems to be recovering uneventfully. He's very stiff and sore, but he's tough. That's scary! I hope he recovers quickly! I found this on the web. and grass seeds are NOT to be taken lightly. They can kill, and nearly killed my own dog. http://www.braggcreekanihosp.com/tales/grass_awns.htm Grass Awns & Foxtails remaining descriptions of grass awns and potential damage snipped Thanks for posting this information. I'd never heard of it, but I'll be on the lookout for grass awns, especially on Dylan's long coat. FurPaw -- There's no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 decibels. To reply, unleash the dog. |
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diddy wrote:
My 13 year old dog is recovering from pyopneumothorax resulting from a grass seed that started when it embedded in his coat, penetrated his skin, threaded through his muscles, and partially collapsed his lung. He has a heavy coat, and the only reason we knew something was wrong, was because he did not play basketball with my puppy. When he refused to move and preferred to watch. He seemed bright and very alert, just reluctant to move.I picked up the phone and called the vet and asked if I could get him in for a checkup. His surgery was scheduled the next morning (Thursday) We are now day three post surgery. Here he is: http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/surgery/ Danny seems to be recovering uneventfully. He's very stiff and sore, but he's tough. That's scary! I hope he recovers quickly! I found this on the web. and grass seeds are NOT to be taken lightly. They can kill, and nearly killed my own dog. http://www.braggcreekanihosp.com/tales/grass_awns.htm Grass Awns & Foxtails remaining descriptions of grass awns and potential damage snipped Thanks for posting this information. I'd never heard of it, but I'll be on the lookout for grass awns, especially on Dylan's long coat. FurPaw -- There's no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 decibels. To reply, unleash the dog. |
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My God. Thanks for that info diddy. My dog has had problems with grass
seeds in his ear, and then in his paw (easily found by the vet) but I'm wondering how good a vet has to be to diagnose one that's got under the skin???? Good luck to Danny (I have a chi called Danny). And good that your vet know's his stuff. Kate "diddy" wrote in message ... My 13 year old dog is recovering from pyopneumothorax resulting from a grass seed that started when it embedded in his coat, penetrated his skin, threaded through his muscles, and partially collapsed his lung. He has a heavy coat, and the only reason we knew something was wrong, was because he did not play basketball with my puppy. When he refused to move and preferred to watch. He seemed bright and very alert, just reluctant to move.I picked up the phone and called the vet and asked if I could get him in for a checkup. His surgery was scheduled the next morning (Thursday) We are now day three post surgery. Here he is: http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/surgery/ Danny seems to be recovering uneventfully. He's very stiff and sore, but he's tough. I found this on the web. and grass seeds are NOT to be taken lightly. They can kill, and nearly killed my own dog. http://www.braggcreekanihosp.com/tales/grass_awns.htm Grass Awns & Foxtails It's grass awn season again! (Grass awns, you say? What are grass awns?) Firstly, we aren't going hunting for them out in the wild, and, secondly, we aren't looking to cook them! Grass awns are the dry seed coats of ripened grasses such as foxtails, spear grass,or barley. They cause a host of problems in our pets. These vegetative objects can in fact kill your dog. They act a little bit like porcupine quills as they stick into things and migrate deeper and deeper. Dogs like to run in fields and like to chew grass. Up until this time, the wild grasses have been succulent and moist. Now that they are ripe and dry, they latch on and hold tight. If swallowed, they stick in to the throat, especially in the tonsillar region and create inflammation and infection. Symptoms would be gulping and swallowing with coughing, retching, and gagging typical symptoms of a sore throat. Sometimes we can visualize the barbs in the throat, but usually we have to give an anesthetic to completely relax the throat muscles. They have to be asleep for us to grasp the awns and remove them. Other locations that we commonly find grass awns are between the toes, in the ears, and in "armpits" and in the groin. Between the toes we find a lump that forms with a discharge. The dog licks at it compulsively. Sometimes we are lucky to have a co-operative patient and a simple exploration with a hemostat will find the culprit. Otherwise, we have to open up the swelling to get a complete look. Once the awn is removed, healing is usually uneventful. When lodged in other parts of the body, the awns can be more dangerous. I have seen them go through the skin of the chest and migrate into the lung. There it sets up an abscess which can be life threatening. Recently, a dog came in with a draining sore over its abdominal spine. We followed the trail where the drainage was originating into the chest cavity under the armpit before we found the foxtail. Grass awns have also lodged into bones of the spine causing arthritic problems in the back. Part of the problem with these things is that they carry bacteria and soil fungi with them on their journey. Sometimes it is these organisms that cause serious illness more than the presence of the plant material itself. What can you do to help? Keep your long coated breeds well groomed. Daily inspection while grooming will often allow you to remove unwanted objects. After a run outside, or a hunting trip, carefully inspect between your dog's toes, in the armpits and groin, and look into his ears. Try to discourage him from chewing the grasses late in the summer and into fall. If you see a seed or barb stuck into the skin, carefully pull it out making sure not to break it off. If you wait until you can get the dog in to your vet, it may already have migrated under the skin from the dog's movement. If you suspect that your dog has been eating grass and has a problem in its throat, don't play "wait and see". It only gets worse with time and harder to find them all. Get to your veterinarian as soon as possible. For more information about this problem, give us a call! DR. BRUCE A. RODGER, DVM and then this (has some illustrations on the web page.) http://rbcm1.rbcm.gov.bc.ca/nh_paper.../menacing.html Natural History Menacing Hitchhikers -Heather Stewart, Botanist- Royal British Columbia Museum As a dog owner I have noticed that small hitchhikers of the plant kind seem determined to attach themselves to my dog's various body parts, like paws or the soft inner snout. Some of these hitchhikers are merely a nuisance, dropping onto floors and furniture, but others can create serious health problems and even surgery. I'm talking about the grass sometimes called "Speargrass". There are many types of grass that could fit into this general category. These grasses share similar characteristics, particularly the long awns. An awn is a long, stiff, sometimes-barbed, projection at the top end of the grass seed. The part of the grass seed that accomplishes the initial hook can either be the awn or the "callus" -- a hard projection at the base of the grass floret that attaches the grass seed to the stem. The long, narrow grass seeds are dispersed by snagging on a moving object. This may sound harmless enough, except that if snagged on an animal and not detected, the seed moves along the hair toward the skin and the callus can cause a lesion and work its way into the soft tissue: once there, the grass can cause infection in the animal and may have to be removed surgically. The species of Speargrass encountered largely depends on the region in which it is found. In the Interior of British Columbia, Speargrass can refer to Needle-and-Thread grasses (Stipa comata), Squirreltail Grass (Elymus elymoides) and Three-awn Grass (Aristida longiseta). Needle-and-Thread Grass has long, twisted awns that may reach up to 15 cm long. Three-awn Grass is as formidable as it sounds: the awn splits into three long points, and it has a hard dartlike callus. Squirreltail has a very dense inflorescence due to a doubling of the number of seeds at each node. These native grasses are usually found on dry, rocky grassland sites at low to mid-elevations. Interior First Nation's children played games with Needle-and-Thread Grass, throwing them as darts. Elsewhere in British Columbia, Speargrass is most likely to be one of two types: low-growing long-awned Bromes (Bromus tectorum, Bromus rigidus or Bromus sterilis) or Wild barley. All three of the Bromes have a droopy, long-awned, but not dense inflorescence, and are weedy, introduced species common in Southern British Columbia. The low Brome grasses grow along the edges of fields, in disturbed sites or along beach and lake edges. Wild Barley or Foxtail (Hordeum brachyantherum or Hordeum jubatum) are weedy native species with a dense, bristly inflorescence. The long-barbed bristles originate at the base of the grass seed and are in addition to the long awns on the seed cover and hard callus. It is a very prickly-looking grass seed. When mature Barley is picked, the stem often falls apart and the grass seeds look like feathery darts (some people call them "flea darts"). The Barleys grow in a wide range of sites from moist meadows, ditches and marsh edges to disturbed urban settings. For veterinarians, long-awned grasses are a common problem, especially when they are in seed. What can pet owners do to prevent problems? In the late summer when grass seeds "head up" or appear ripe, it is wise to refrain from walking in long grass. Stick to the trails and walk with your pet on a leash. A good rule of thumb is, if you have grass seed in your socks after a walk your dog likely has seed on/in its coat. Check your pet's paws regularly from August to November for signs of lesions or infection; and keep "feathering" short. If you do notice a swelling or cystlike lump on your pet's body, I recommend you take your pet to the vet at once. Although this is something that deserves your attention as a pet owner, if you follow the advice above this should not deter you from enjoying the outdoors with your pet! *** And then there is this snippet.. regarding recovery. Makes me wonder if Danny is REALLY out of the woods.. or not. http://www.vetsurg.com/Newsletter2000.html The thoracic form of infection occurs when a grass awn migrates via the lung tissue into the thoracic cavity. Dogs may present with a dry, non-productive cough, or simply be presented for exercise intolerance. Symptoms may be gradual in onset, especially in highly trained, athletic dogs. Chest radiographs may demonstrate fluid within the chest cavity (pyothorax) with a mass or masses within the lung lobe(s). Recently, I have seen two cases with a diffuse bronchointerstitial pneumonia rather than a mass lesion and pyothorax. Thoracocentesis in cases with pyothorax demonstrates a consistently foul-smelling, "tomato soup-like" fluid which is usually a greyish-yellow to reddish-brown in color. Granules may be noted in the fluid. When submitting cultures, be sure to notify the lab you are looking specifically for Actino/Nocardia infection as special culture media and a prolonged culture duration is required. Thoracotomy is usually indicated, with aggressive surgical debridement plus/minus lobectomy. Mortality rates of approximately 50% may be expected. Conservative treatment is not effective. The cutaneous form is the other frequent manifestation of disease that we see. It may be characterized by a draining tract on the extremities, but more often we see a large abscess-type lesion on the thoracic wall, or just caudal to the last rib on the abdominal wall. Draining the abscess rarely results in a cure. Surgical exploration with aggressive debridement is needed. Identification of a foreign body markedly improves the odds of success, with success rates of 90% expected if a foreign body is found. Recurrent infection, or persistent low-grade infection may be noted. Aggressive, long-term antimicrobial therapy is needed. Since the organisms are difficult to culture, treatment many times must be done in the absence of a definitive culture and sensitivity finding. Combination therapy with penicillin/amoxicillin plus sulfa-trimethroprim for one month is suggested. Alternatively, 11 mg/kg clindamycin BID, used for 30 days, is appropriate based upon recent communication with a veterinary microbiologist. Cost or side effects may dictate antibiotic choice. Awareness, early detection, and aggressive treatment of these infections improves success rates dramatically. Hopefully, this will serve to heighten the suspicion and recognition of Actinomyces and Nocardia infection. (Danny's fluids were cultured and sent to a lab to confirm this, and his awn WAS recovered) Doc also did aggressive debridement of the area (I told you he removed over a pound) So I feel really good about this. Danny's spirits are MUCH better than they were before the surgery, before I knew something was wrong. Jeff knew he was off. but thought it was his combination of old age + broken shoulder. It sounds as if my vet read this before doing his surgery, but in fact, He didn't know what we had until he got into and found the tomato soupy stinky stuff. Danny WAS breathing funny, but we thought it was the heat/old age factor. We both expected him to improve when we got him to the mountains in 4 weeks. (Jeff was angry because he had NOT taken an xray before doing surgery. Danny had xrays of his chest taken in May, we thought going in, that he was having complications from his broken shoulder bone splinter. Xrays weren't necessary and it was a cost saving effort on my already over strained budget. Guess it was a short cut we should have not taken, except I doubt it would have turned out differently.) ****** NICE illustration and description http://www.vet.purdue.edu/depts/addl/toxic/plant01.htm |
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My God. Thanks for that info diddy. My dog has had problems with grass
seeds in his ear, and then in his paw (easily found by the vet) but I'm wondering how good a vet has to be to diagnose one that's got under the skin???? Good luck to Danny (I have a chi called Danny). And good that your vet know's his stuff. Kate "diddy" wrote in message ... My 13 year old dog is recovering from pyopneumothorax resulting from a grass seed that started when it embedded in his coat, penetrated his skin, threaded through his muscles, and partially collapsed his lung. He has a heavy coat, and the only reason we knew something was wrong, was because he did not play basketball with my puppy. When he refused to move and preferred to watch. He seemed bright and very alert, just reluctant to move.I picked up the phone and called the vet and asked if I could get him in for a checkup. His surgery was scheduled the next morning (Thursday) We are now day three post surgery. Here he is: http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/surgery/ Danny seems to be recovering uneventfully. He's very stiff and sore, but he's tough. I found this on the web. and grass seeds are NOT to be taken lightly. They can kill, and nearly killed my own dog. http://www.braggcreekanihosp.com/tales/grass_awns.htm Grass Awns & Foxtails It's grass awn season again! (Grass awns, you say? What are grass awns?) Firstly, we aren't going hunting for them out in the wild, and, secondly, we aren't looking to cook them! Grass awns are the dry seed coats of ripened grasses such as foxtails, spear grass,or barley. They cause a host of problems in our pets. These vegetative objects can in fact kill your dog. They act a little bit like porcupine quills as they stick into things and migrate deeper and deeper. Dogs like to run in fields and like to chew grass. Up until this time, the wild grasses have been succulent and moist. Now that they are ripe and dry, they latch on and hold tight. If swallowed, they stick in to the throat, especially in the tonsillar region and create inflammation and infection. Symptoms would be gulping and swallowing with coughing, retching, and gagging typical symptoms of a sore throat. Sometimes we can visualize the barbs in the throat, but usually we have to give an anesthetic to completely relax the throat muscles. They have to be asleep for us to grasp the awns and remove them. Other locations that we commonly find grass awns are between the toes, in the ears, and in "armpits" and in the groin. Between the toes we find a lump that forms with a discharge. The dog licks at it compulsively. Sometimes we are lucky to have a co-operative patient and a simple exploration with a hemostat will find the culprit. Otherwise, we have to open up the swelling to get a complete look. Once the awn is removed, healing is usually uneventful. When lodged in other parts of the body, the awns can be more dangerous. I have seen them go through the skin of the chest and migrate into the lung. There it sets up an abscess which can be life threatening. Recently, a dog came in with a draining sore over its abdominal spine. We followed the trail where the drainage was originating into the chest cavity under the armpit before we found the foxtail. Grass awns have also lodged into bones of the spine causing arthritic problems in the back. Part of the problem with these things is that they carry bacteria and soil fungi with them on their journey. Sometimes it is these organisms that cause serious illness more than the presence of the plant material itself. What can you do to help? Keep your long coated breeds well groomed. Daily inspection while grooming will often allow you to remove unwanted objects. After a run outside, or a hunting trip, carefully inspect between your dog's toes, in the armpits and groin, and look into his ears. Try to discourage him from chewing the grasses late in the summer and into fall. If you see a seed or barb stuck into the skin, carefully pull it out making sure not to break it off. If you wait until you can get the dog in to your vet, it may already have migrated under the skin from the dog's movement. If you suspect that your dog has been eating grass and has a problem in its throat, don't play "wait and see". It only gets worse with time and harder to find them all. Get to your veterinarian as soon as possible. For more information about this problem, give us a call! DR. BRUCE A. RODGER, DVM and then this (has some illustrations on the web page.) http://rbcm1.rbcm.gov.bc.ca/nh_paper.../menacing.html Natural History Menacing Hitchhikers -Heather Stewart, Botanist- Royal British Columbia Museum As a dog owner I have noticed that small hitchhikers of the plant kind seem determined to attach themselves to my dog's various body parts, like paws or the soft inner snout. Some of these hitchhikers are merely a nuisance, dropping onto floors and furniture, but others can create serious health problems and even surgery. I'm talking about the grass sometimes called "Speargrass". There are many types of grass that could fit into this general category. These grasses share similar characteristics, particularly the long awns. An awn is a long, stiff, sometimes-barbed, projection at the top end of the grass seed. The part of the grass seed that accomplishes the initial hook can either be the awn or the "callus" -- a hard projection at the base of the grass floret that attaches the grass seed to the stem. The long, narrow grass seeds are dispersed by snagging on a moving object. This may sound harmless enough, except that if snagged on an animal and not detected, the seed moves along the hair toward the skin and the callus can cause a lesion and work its way into the soft tissue: once there, the grass can cause infection in the animal and may have to be removed surgically. The species of Speargrass encountered largely depends on the region in which it is found. In the Interior of British Columbia, Speargrass can refer to Needle-and-Thread grasses (Stipa comata), Squirreltail Grass (Elymus elymoides) and Three-awn Grass (Aristida longiseta). Needle-and-Thread Grass has long, twisted awns that may reach up to 15 cm long. Three-awn Grass is as formidable as it sounds: the awn splits into three long points, and it has a hard dartlike callus. Squirreltail has a very dense inflorescence due to a doubling of the number of seeds at each node. These native grasses are usually found on dry, rocky grassland sites at low to mid-elevations. Interior First Nation's children played games with Needle-and-Thread Grass, throwing them as darts. Elsewhere in British Columbia, Speargrass is most likely to be one of two types: low-growing long-awned Bromes (Bromus tectorum, Bromus rigidus or Bromus sterilis) or Wild barley. All three of the Bromes have a droopy, long-awned, but not dense inflorescence, and are weedy, introduced species common in Southern British Columbia. The low Brome grasses grow along the edges of fields, in disturbed sites or along beach and lake edges. Wild Barley or Foxtail (Hordeum brachyantherum or Hordeum jubatum) are weedy native species with a dense, bristly inflorescence. The long-barbed bristles originate at the base of the grass seed and are in addition to the long awns on the seed cover and hard callus. It is a very prickly-looking grass seed. When mature Barley is picked, the stem often falls apart and the grass seeds look like feathery darts (some people call them "flea darts"). The Barleys grow in a wide range of sites from moist meadows, ditches and marsh edges to disturbed urban settings. For veterinarians, long-awned grasses are a common problem, especially when they are in seed. What can pet owners do to prevent problems? In the late summer when grass seeds "head up" or appear ripe, it is wise to refrain from walking in long grass. Stick to the trails and walk with your pet on a leash. A good rule of thumb is, if you have grass seed in your socks after a walk your dog likely has seed on/in its coat. Check your pet's paws regularly from August to November for signs of lesions or infection; and keep "feathering" short. If you do notice a swelling or cystlike lump on your pet's body, I recommend you take your pet to the vet at once. Although this is something that deserves your attention as a pet owner, if you follow the advice above this should not deter you from enjoying the outdoors with your pet! *** And then there is this snippet.. regarding recovery. Makes me wonder if Danny is REALLY out of the woods.. or not. http://www.vetsurg.com/Newsletter2000.html The thoracic form of infection occurs when a grass awn migrates via the lung tissue into the thoracic cavity. Dogs may present with a dry, non-productive cough, or simply be presented for exercise intolerance. Symptoms may be gradual in onset, especially in highly trained, athletic dogs. Chest radiographs may demonstrate fluid within the chest cavity (pyothorax) with a mass or masses within the lung lobe(s). Recently, I have seen two cases with a diffuse bronchointerstitial pneumonia rather than a mass lesion and pyothorax. Thoracocentesis in cases with pyothorax demonstrates a consistently foul-smelling, "tomato soup-like" fluid which is usually a greyish-yellow to reddish-brown in color. Granules may be noted in the fluid. When submitting cultures, be sure to notify the lab you are looking specifically for Actino/Nocardia infection as special culture media and a prolonged culture duration is required. Thoracotomy is usually indicated, with aggressive surgical debridement plus/minus lobectomy. Mortality rates of approximately 50% may be expected. Conservative treatment is not effective. The cutaneous form is the other frequent manifestation of disease that we see. It may be characterized by a draining tract on the extremities, but more often we see a large abscess-type lesion on the thoracic wall, or just caudal to the last rib on the abdominal wall. Draining the abscess rarely results in a cure. Surgical exploration with aggressive debridement is needed. Identification of a foreign body markedly improves the odds of success, with success rates of 90% expected if a foreign body is found. Recurrent infection, or persistent low-grade infection may be noted. Aggressive, long-term antimicrobial therapy is needed. Since the organisms are difficult to culture, treatment many times must be done in the absence of a definitive culture and sensitivity finding. Combination therapy with penicillin/amoxicillin plus sulfa-trimethroprim for one month is suggested. Alternatively, 11 mg/kg clindamycin BID, used for 30 days, is appropriate based upon recent communication with a veterinary microbiologist. Cost or side effects may dictate antibiotic choice. Awareness, early detection, and aggressive treatment of these infections improves success rates dramatically. Hopefully, this will serve to heighten the suspicion and recognition of Actinomyces and Nocardia infection. (Danny's fluids were cultured and sent to a lab to confirm this, and his awn WAS recovered) Doc also did aggressive debridement of the area (I told you he removed over a pound) So I feel really good about this. Danny's spirits are MUCH better than they were before the surgery, before I knew something was wrong. Jeff knew he was off. but thought it was his combination of old age + broken shoulder. It sounds as if my vet read this before doing his surgery, but in fact, He didn't know what we had until he got into and found the tomato soupy stinky stuff. Danny WAS breathing funny, but we thought it was the heat/old age factor. We both expected him to improve when we got him to the mountains in 4 weeks. (Jeff was angry because he had NOT taken an xray before doing surgery. Danny had xrays of his chest taken in May, we thought going in, that he was having complications from his broken shoulder bone splinter. Xrays weren't necessary and it was a cost saving effort on my already over strained budget. Guess it was a short cut we should have not taken, except I doubt it would have turned out differently.) ****** NICE illustration and description http://www.vet.purdue.edu/depts/addl/toxic/plant01.htm |
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How is Danny doing? Did you call the vet? Please let us know.
Sue It's 3:58 in the morning. something has just happened. Danny (formerly resting quietly until now) has started turning circles relentlessly. He's lip smacking, and several times has woken me up with a hug. Reka is also trying to get my attention, and then just stares at Danny. I looked him all over and can't find a thing wrong. But there is. I'm trying to stay my hand and call the vet in the morning, but things aren't going well. I just know it. |
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How is Danny doing? Did you call the vet? Please let us know.
Sue It's 3:58 in the morning. something has just happened. Danny (formerly resting quietly until now) has started turning circles relentlessly. He's lip smacking, and several times has woken me up with a hug. Reka is also trying to get my attention, and then just stares at Danny. I looked him all over and can't find a thing wrong. But there is. I'm trying to stay my hand and call the vet in the morning, but things aren't going well. I just know it. |
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"diddy" wrote ...
blue eyes- (When Danny is ill, his eyes take on a more blueish appearance. But when I took him in for his CERF, I asked, and the doc said they were OLD DOG EYES. (It did not affect CERF) and he said that blueish haze is a lifetime of cells shed in the eye with no where to go. It was NORMAL. I have news, Danny's eyes get shiney blue when he's sick. He must be stirring up some of those old cells resting at the bottom when he's ill. I have no explaination, but it's TRUE.) Glad to hear Danny's doing okay again. Murphy's always had blueish eyes - quite milky-looking - since she was very young. The vet said something about cataracts last time we were there, but thought maybe they are slow-growing ones since she's always had that look to her eyes and there's certainly nothing wrong with her eyesight (can spot a piece of food dropping at 100 paces!) I'm a little concerned about the whole grass seed thing since we're hoping to get a long-haired breed (Newfie) at the end of this year - I guess as long as we groom it daily we should pick up any unwanted passengers. Thanks for the heads-up, sorry Danny has been so ill as a result though. Rachel (New Zealand) |
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"diddy" wrote ...
blue eyes- (When Danny is ill, his eyes take on a more blueish appearance. But when I took him in for his CERF, I asked, and the doc said they were OLD DOG EYES. (It did not affect CERF) and he said that blueish haze is a lifetime of cells shed in the eye with no where to go. It was NORMAL. I have news, Danny's eyes get shiney blue when he's sick. He must be stirring up some of those old cells resting at the bottom when he's ill. I have no explaination, but it's TRUE.) Glad to hear Danny's doing okay again. Murphy's always had blueish eyes - quite milky-looking - since she was very young. The vet said something about cataracts last time we were there, but thought maybe they are slow-growing ones since she's always had that look to her eyes and there's certainly nothing wrong with her eyesight (can spot a piece of food dropping at 100 paces!) I'm a little concerned about the whole grass seed thing since we're hoping to get a long-haired breed (Newfie) at the end of this year - I guess as long as we groom it daily we should pick up any unwanted passengers. Thanks for the heads-up, sorry Danny has been so ill as a result though. Rachel (New Zealand) |
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Hi Diddy ,
Poor Danny . To go through this at his age! I hope he recovers quickly . Thank you for the warning. Did you know I have a new dog called Diddy ? -- Alison / "diddy" wrote in message ... My 13 year old dog is recovering from pyopneumothorax resulting from a grass seed that started when it embedded in his coat, penetrated his skin, threaded through his muscles, and partially collapsed his lung. He has a heavy coat, and the only reason we knew something was wrong, was because he did not play basketball with my puppy. When he refused to move and preferred to watch. He seemed bright and very alert, just reluctant to move.I picked up the phone and called the vet and asked if I could get him in for a checkup. His surgery was scheduled the next morning (Thursday) We are now day three post surgery. Here he is: http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/surgery/ Danny seems to be recovering uneventfully. He's very stiff and sore, but he's tough. I found this on the web. and grass seeds are NOT to be taken lightly. They can kill, and nearly killed my own dog. http://www.braggcreekanihosp.com/tales/grass_awns.htm Grass Awns & Foxtails |
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