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Old January 9th 04, 12:49 AM
Montgomery Farr
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Default barking training

This has probably been addressed several times here - but I can't find any
of the posts besides one that I can't really follow. Someone in the
neighborhood recently left us a note about one of our dogs barking and we
originally passed it off as a new neighbor or someone having a bad day since
they live across the street from the neighbors behind us and several houses
up and none of our actual neighbors have ever complained. However after
having talked to the person we found out they've noticed it for a while and
tried to hold off complaining until they had a reasonable solution, and as
we walked up the street that these people live on after a snowstorm sure
enough dog #3 was barking away at absolutely nothing and clearly taking
advantage of our not being home.

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks loudly, continuously
and mostly when we're gone - just sits on the back porch barking. The dogs
have free run of the yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to
things that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15 pounds of fury
woke us up in time to scare off a guy stealing the tires off of one of our
car). Does anyone have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this? I've seen an outdoor 'sonic
corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise when they bark -- has this
worked for anyone or does it just add an irritating noise to the commotion?
We also looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker to be
punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs barking near her. So far
I've only found citronella collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has
anyone had luck with these or found one that is triggered by a vibration
like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know if the citronella stings
their eyes or just annoys them with the strong smell? We're not interested
in using a shock collar.

thanks,
anna


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Old January 9th 04, 03:12 AM
Rocky
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Montgomery Farr said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks
loudly, continuously and mostly when we're gone - just sits
on the back porch barking. The dogs have free run of the
yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to things
that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15
pounds of fury woke us up in time to scare off a guy
stealing the tires off of one of our car). Does anyone
have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this?


As you say, the barking may be fun, but often it's nervousness.
After all, you've given the dogs a huge responsibility by asking
them to protect the entire neighbourhood.

You say that your dogs have free run of both the yard and house
(I assume through a dog door). Does this include while you're
away from home?

Personally, I think that your best solution is denying them
outside access while you're away. Have you consulted a trainer?
Certainly, none of the solutions you've put forward below have a
very good chance of working, since they involve the dog training
itself.

I've seen an outdoor
'sonic corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise
when they bark -- has this worked for anyone or does it
just add an irritating noise to the commotion? We also
looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker
to be punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs
barking near her. So far I've only found citronella
collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has anyone had
luck with these or found one that is triggered by a
vibration like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know
if the citronella stings their eyes or just annoys them
with the strong smell? We're not interested in using a
shock collar.


Amazing. You don't want to use a "shock" collar, yet are
interested in more information on a device which may *sting*
their eyes or *annoy* them with a strong smell. To tell you the
truth, both types of collars are inappropriate in this
situation.

Keep your dogs inside while you're not at home. They, and your
neighbours, will be happier. Meanwhile, expand your dogs'
territory gradually so that they're comfortable with the
responsibilites you give them.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Old January 9th 04, 03:12 AM
Rocky
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Montgomery Farr said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks
loudly, continuously and mostly when we're gone - just sits
on the back porch barking. The dogs have free run of the
yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to things
that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15
pounds of fury woke us up in time to scare off a guy
stealing the tires off of one of our car). Does anyone
have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this?


As you say, the barking may be fun, but often it's nervousness.
After all, you've given the dogs a huge responsibility by asking
them to protect the entire neighbourhood.

You say that your dogs have free run of both the yard and house
(I assume through a dog door). Does this include while you're
away from home?

Personally, I think that your best solution is denying them
outside access while you're away. Have you consulted a trainer?
Certainly, none of the solutions you've put forward below have a
very good chance of working, since they involve the dog training
itself.

I've seen an outdoor
'sonic corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise
when they bark -- has this worked for anyone or does it
just add an irritating noise to the commotion? We also
looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker
to be punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs
barking near her. So far I've only found citronella
collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has anyone had
luck with these or found one that is triggered by a
vibration like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know
if the citronella stings their eyes or just annoys them
with the strong smell? We're not interested in using a
shock collar.


Amazing. You don't want to use a "shock" collar, yet are
interested in more information on a device which may *sting*
their eyes or *annoy* them with a strong smell. To tell you the
truth, both types of collars are inappropriate in this
situation.

Keep your dogs inside while you're not at home. They, and your
neighbours, will be happier. Meanwhile, expand your dogs'
territory gradually so that they're comfortable with the
responsibilites you give them.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Old January 9th 04, 03:12 AM
Rocky
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Montgomery Farr said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks
loudly, continuously and mostly when we're gone - just sits
on the back porch barking. The dogs have free run of the
yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to things
that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15
pounds of fury woke us up in time to scare off a guy
stealing the tires off of one of our car). Does anyone
have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this?


As you say, the barking may be fun, but often it's nervousness.
After all, you've given the dogs a huge responsibility by asking
them to protect the entire neighbourhood.

You say that your dogs have free run of both the yard and house
(I assume through a dog door). Does this include while you're
away from home?

Personally, I think that your best solution is denying them
outside access while you're away. Have you consulted a trainer?
Certainly, none of the solutions you've put forward below have a
very good chance of working, since they involve the dog training
itself.

I've seen an outdoor
'sonic corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise
when they bark -- has this worked for anyone or does it
just add an irritating noise to the commotion? We also
looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker
to be punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs
barking near her. So far I've only found citronella
collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has anyone had
luck with these or found one that is triggered by a
vibration like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know
if the citronella stings their eyes or just annoys them
with the strong smell? We're not interested in using a
shock collar.


Amazing. You don't want to use a "shock" collar, yet are
interested in more information on a device which may *sting*
their eyes or *annoy* them with a strong smell. To tell you the
truth, both types of collars are inappropriate in this
situation.

Keep your dogs inside while you're not at home. They, and your
neighbours, will be happier. Meanwhile, expand your dogs'
territory gradually so that they're comfortable with the
responsibilites you give them.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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Old January 9th 04, 08:28 AM
Bulger
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We tried a sonic collar for this kind of barking, and it didn't seem to
bother Ciska enough to get her to stop barking. We finally moved to the
shock collar, and following the directions (i.e. short durations) she
stopped the unprompted barking by the third day. It has been two weeks,
with no collar, and no barking for no reason. She's happy, tireless, and we
love her. And now, so do the neighbors.

"Rocky" wrote in message
...
Montgomery Farr said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks
loudly, continuously and mostly when we're gone - just sits
on the back porch barking. The dogs have free run of the
yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to things
that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15
pounds of fury woke us up in time to scare off a guy
stealing the tires off of one of our car). Does anyone
have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this?


As you say, the barking may be fun, but often it's nervousness.
After all, you've given the dogs a huge responsibility by asking
them to protect the entire neighbourhood.

You say that your dogs have free run of both the yard and house
(I assume through a dog door). Does this include while you're
away from home?

Personally, I think that your best solution is denying them
outside access while you're away. Have you consulted a trainer?
Certainly, none of the solutions you've put forward below have a
very good chance of working, since they involve the dog training
itself.

I've seen an outdoor
'sonic corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise
when they bark -- has this worked for anyone or does it
just add an irritating noise to the commotion? We also
looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker
to be punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs
barking near her. So far I've only found citronella
collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has anyone had
luck with these or found one that is triggered by a
vibration like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know
if the citronella stings their eyes or just annoys them
with the strong smell? We're not interested in using a
shock collar.


Amazing. You don't want to use a "shock" collar, yet are
interested in more information on a device which may *sting*
their eyes or *annoy* them with a strong smell. To tell you the
truth, both types of collars are inappropriate in this
situation.

Keep your dogs inside while you're not at home. They, and your
neighbours, will be happier. Meanwhile, expand your dogs'
territory gradually so that they're comfortable with the
responsibilites you give them.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.



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Old January 9th 04, 08:28 AM
Bulger
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We tried a sonic collar for this kind of barking, and it didn't seem to
bother Ciska enough to get her to stop barking. We finally moved to the
shock collar, and following the directions (i.e. short durations) she
stopped the unprompted barking by the third day. It has been two weeks,
with no collar, and no barking for no reason. She's happy, tireless, and we
love her. And now, so do the neighbors.

"Rocky" wrote in message
...
Montgomery Farr said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks
loudly, continuously and mostly when we're gone - just sits
on the back porch barking. The dogs have free run of the
yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to things
that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15
pounds of fury woke us up in time to scare off a guy
stealing the tires off of one of our car). Does anyone
have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this?


As you say, the barking may be fun, but often it's nervousness.
After all, you've given the dogs a huge responsibility by asking
them to protect the entire neighbourhood.

You say that your dogs have free run of both the yard and house
(I assume through a dog door). Does this include while you're
away from home?

Personally, I think that your best solution is denying them
outside access while you're away. Have you consulted a trainer?
Certainly, none of the solutions you've put forward below have a
very good chance of working, since they involve the dog training
itself.

I've seen an outdoor
'sonic corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise
when they bark -- has this worked for anyone or does it
just add an irritating noise to the commotion? We also
looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker
to be punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs
barking near her. So far I've only found citronella
collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has anyone had
luck with these or found one that is triggered by a
vibration like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know
if the citronella stings their eyes or just annoys them
with the strong smell? We're not interested in using a
shock collar.


Amazing. You don't want to use a "shock" collar, yet are
interested in more information on a device which may *sting*
their eyes or *annoy* them with a strong smell. To tell you the
truth, both types of collars are inappropriate in this
situation.

Keep your dogs inside while you're not at home. They, and your
neighbours, will be happier. Meanwhile, expand your dogs'
territory gradually so that they're comfortable with the
responsibilites you give them.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.



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Old January 9th 04, 08:28 AM
Bulger
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We tried a sonic collar for this kind of barking, and it didn't seem to
bother Ciska enough to get her to stop barking. We finally moved to the
shock collar, and following the directions (i.e. short durations) she
stopped the unprompted barking by the third day. It has been two weeks,
with no collar, and no barking for no reason. She's happy, tireless, and we
love her. And now, so do the neighbors.

"Rocky" wrote in message
...
Montgomery Farr said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

We have 3 dogs, all of which bark, but only one barks
loudly, continuously and mostly when we're gone - just sits
on the back porch barking. The dogs have free run of the
yard and house and we do rely on them to alert us to things
that are actually going on in the yard or driveway (15
pounds of fury woke us up in time to scare off a guy
stealing the tires off of one of our car). Does anyone
have experience try ing to reduce the random or just for
fun barking in a situation like this?


As you say, the barking may be fun, but often it's nervousness.
After all, you've given the dogs a huge responsibility by asking
them to protect the entire neighbourhood.

You say that your dogs have free run of both the yard and house
(I assume through a dog door). Does this include while you're
away from home?

Personally, I think that your best solution is denying them
outside access while you're away. Have you consulted a trainer?
Certainly, none of the solutions you've put forward below have a
very good chance of working, since they involve the dog training
itself.

I've seen an outdoor
'sonic corrector' that seems to make an irritating noise
when they bark -- has this worked for anyone or does it
just add an irritating noise to the commotion? We also
looked the citronella collars, but we don't want the barker
to be punished for other sounds or for the smaller dogs
barking near her. So far I've only found citronella
collars that are trigger by a microphone -- Has anyone had
luck with these or found one that is triggered by a
vibration like some of the shock collars? Does anyone know
if the citronella stings their eyes or just annoys them
with the strong smell? We're not interested in using a
shock collar.


Amazing. You don't want to use a "shock" collar, yet are
interested in more information on a device which may *sting*
their eyes or *annoy* them with a strong smell. To tell you the
truth, both types of collars are inappropriate in this
situation.

Keep your dogs inside while you're not at home. They, and your
neighbours, will be happier. Meanwhile, expand your dogs'
territory gradually so that they're comfortable with the
responsibilites you give them.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.



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Old January 9th 04, 02:01 PM
KrisHur
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Keep in mind these people have several dogs, if one barks it will set off
the collar on the dog wearing it, even if the dog wearing it is not barking.
If the dog cannot make the connection that his barking is what sets the
collar off, it will be useless to stop his barking, create a frustration
that could/should result in super serious behavior problems.

--
Kristen and
Kali CDX, CGC, TDIA, TT
www.kristenandkali.com




"Bulger" wrote in message
...
We tried a sonic collar for this kind of barking, and it didn't seem to
bother Ciska enough to get her to stop barking. We finally moved to the
shock collar, and following the directions (i.e. short durations) she
stopped the unprompted barking by the third day. It has been two weeks,
with no collar, and no barking for no reason. She's happy, tireless, and

we
love her. And now, so do the neighbors.



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Old January 9th 04, 02:01 PM
KrisHur
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Keep in mind these people have several dogs, if one barks it will set off
the collar on the dog wearing it, even if the dog wearing it is not barking.
If the dog cannot make the connection that his barking is what sets the
collar off, it will be useless to stop his barking, create a frustration
that could/should result in super serious behavior problems.

--
Kristen and
Kali CDX, CGC, TDIA, TT
www.kristenandkali.com




"Bulger" wrote in message
...
We tried a sonic collar for this kind of barking, and it didn't seem to
bother Ciska enough to get her to stop barking. We finally moved to the
shock collar, and following the directions (i.e. short durations) she
stopped the unprompted barking by the third day. It has been two weeks,
with no collar, and no barking for no reason. She's happy, tireless, and

we
love her. And now, so do the neighbors.



  #10  
Old January 9th 04, 02:01 PM
KrisHur
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Keep in mind these people have several dogs, if one barks it will set off
the collar on the dog wearing it, even if the dog wearing it is not barking.
If the dog cannot make the connection that his barking is what sets the
collar off, it will be useless to stop his barking, create a frustration
that could/should result in super serious behavior problems.

--
Kristen and
Kali CDX, CGC, TDIA, TT
www.kristenandkali.com




"Bulger" wrote in message
...
We tried a sonic collar for this kind of barking, and it didn't seem to
bother Ciska enough to get her to stop barking. We finally moved to the
shock collar, and following the directions (i.e. short durations) she
stopped the unprompted barking by the third day. It has been two weeks,
with no collar, and no barking for no reason. She's happy, tireless, and

we
love her. And now, so do the neighbors.



 




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