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Old January 18th 04, 08:30 AM
Dimpled Chad
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Default Frankie update 12.17.04

Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is doing better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now down to 3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize. This is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver enzymes and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low reading of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the vaccination. We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good, because that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the drugs he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but with the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a *bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

--
Looking for a pet? Adopt one! ** http://www.petfinder.com
Info for a healthy, happy dog? * http://www.dog-play.com


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Old January 18th 04, 11:04 PM
Perry
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Hi Chad.
It *is* exhausting to try to not worry, isn't it. But we do worry all the
same. One day at a time.
I am glad you have a vet you have confidence in. Sounds like she listens to
your concerns.
Glad Frankie is still a happy chap! Wouldn't it be nice to have that
innocence and faith?
Perry
bentcajungirl

"Dimpled Chad" wrote in message
...
Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is doing

better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now down to

3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize. This

is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver enzymes

and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to

suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get

tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low reading

of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the vaccination.

We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno

suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his

mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good, because

that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the drugs

he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but with

the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing

whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a *bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and

energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as

quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

--
Looking for a pet? Adopt one! ** http://www.petfinder.com
Info for a healthy, happy dog? * http://www.dog-play.com


Illegitimi non carborundum







  #3  
Old January 18th 04, 11:04 PM
Perry
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Hi Chad.
It *is* exhausting to try to not worry, isn't it. But we do worry all the
same. One day at a time.
I am glad you have a vet you have confidence in. Sounds like she listens to
your concerns.
Glad Frankie is still a happy chap! Wouldn't it be nice to have that
innocence and faith?
Perry
bentcajungirl

"Dimpled Chad" wrote in message
...
Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is doing

better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now down to

3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize. This

is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver enzymes

and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to

suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get

tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low reading

of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the vaccination.

We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno

suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his

mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good, because

that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the drugs

he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but with

the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing

whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a *bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and

energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as

quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

--
Looking for a pet? Adopt one! ** http://www.petfinder.com
Info for a healthy, happy dog? * http://www.dog-play.com


Illegitimi non carborundum







  #4  
Old January 18th 04, 11:04 PM
Perry
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Hi Chad.
It *is* exhausting to try to not worry, isn't it. But we do worry all the
same. One day at a time.
I am glad you have a vet you have confidence in. Sounds like she listens to
your concerns.
Glad Frankie is still a happy chap! Wouldn't it be nice to have that
innocence and faith?
Perry
bentcajungirl

"Dimpled Chad" wrote in message
...
Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is doing

better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now down to

3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize. This

is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver enzymes

and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to

suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get

tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low reading

of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the vaccination.

We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno

suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his

mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good, because

that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the drugs

he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but with

the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing

whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a *bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and

energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as

quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

--
Looking for a pet? Adopt one! ** http://www.petfinder.com
Info for a healthy, happy dog? * http://www.dog-play.com


Illegitimi non carborundum







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Old January 19th 04, 12:46 AM
Kevin Michael Vail
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In article ,
Dimpled Chad wrote:

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.


Yay, Frankie!

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.


It doesn't sound like the masses in his mouth are cancer, from the
symmetry of them. But I will keep everything crossed about that anyway.
I'm glad he's peppy, energetic, and happy--what a trouper!

Give him skritches from David and me and the doggie equivalent from
Fidget, and tell him we're all sending constant good vibes.

P.S. Is the subject supposed to be 1.17.04?
--
Found Poetry (_Science News_, 14-Jun-2003): oldest _homo sapiens_ find
+-----------------------------------------+ ocean eddies' far-flung effects;
| Kevin Michael Vail | superior threads spun
+-----------------------------------------+ the pox from prairie dogs.
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Old January 19th 04, 12:46 AM
Kevin Michael Vail
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In article ,
Dimpled Chad wrote:

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.


Yay, Frankie!

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.


It doesn't sound like the masses in his mouth are cancer, from the
symmetry of them. But I will keep everything crossed about that anyway.
I'm glad he's peppy, energetic, and happy--what a trouper!

Give him skritches from David and me and the doggie equivalent from
Fidget, and tell him we're all sending constant good vibes.

P.S. Is the subject supposed to be 1.17.04?
--
Found Poetry (_Science News_, 14-Jun-2003): oldest _homo sapiens_ find
+-----------------------------------------+ ocean eddies' far-flung effects;
| Kevin Michael Vail | superior threads spun
+-----------------------------------------+ the pox from prairie dogs.
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Old January 19th 04, 12:46 AM
Kevin Michael Vail
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Default

In article ,
Dimpled Chad wrote:

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.


Yay, Frankie!

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough, we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.


It doesn't sound like the masses in his mouth are cancer, from the
symmetry of them. But I will keep everything crossed about that anyway.
I'm glad he's peppy, energetic, and happy--what a trouper!

Give him skritches from David and me and the doggie equivalent from
Fidget, and tell him we're all sending constant good vibes.

P.S. Is the subject supposed to be 1.17.04?
--
Found Poetry (_Science News_, 14-Jun-2003): oldest _homo sapiens_ find
+-----------------------------------------+ ocean eddies' far-flung effects;
| Kevin Michael Vail | superior threads spun
+-----------------------------------------+ the pox from prairie dogs.
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Old January 19th 04, 12:17 PM
Alison
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"Dimpled Chad" wrote in message
...
Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is

doing better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now

down to 3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The

Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize.

This is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver

enzymes and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to

an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take

him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But

if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to

suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get

tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low

reading of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the

vaccination. We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno

suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto

infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak

full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his

mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good,

because that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the

drugs he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be

cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but

with the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact

that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing

whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a

*bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from

actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and

energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar

throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as

quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough,

we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's

doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

Hi Chad,
I'm glad Frankie is doing a little better and continues to improve.
I won't say try not to worry, as it's impossible not to.
Best wishes to you and your family too,
Alison




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Old January 19th 04, 12:17 PM
Alison
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"Dimpled Chad" wrote in message
...
Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is

doing better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now

down to 3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The

Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize.

This is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver

enzymes and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to

an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take

him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But

if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to

suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get

tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low

reading of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the

vaccination. We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno

suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto

infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak

full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his

mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good,

because that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the

drugs he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be

cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but

with the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact

that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing

whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a

*bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from

actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and

energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar

throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as

quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough,

we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's

doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

Hi Chad,
I'm glad Frankie is doing a little better and continues to improve.
I won't say try not to worry, as it's impossible not to.
Best wishes to you and your family too,
Alison




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Old January 19th 04, 12:17 PM
Alison
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"Dimpled Chad" wrote in message
...
Hi friends,

I thought I'd drop in with another too-brief update. Frankie is

doing better.
He continues to tolerate the decreasing steroids well. He is now

down to 3.5
pills a week, from a high of 14 a week when he first went in. The

Imuran
helps, it seems, and allows him to decrease quicker than otherwize.

This is
good, because the vets are keeping an eye on the increased liver

enzymes and
are hopeful that they will go down once we decrease the steroids to

an
acceptable level. We need to decide whether we want to try to take

him off
completely or not. If so, then it would be better for his liver. But

if he
has a relapse, they typically hit harder and are more difficult to

suppress
the second go around.

We had a brief interude with a lepto scare. Someone suggested we get

tested
for this in *.veterinary, and we did. Upshot was a very very low

reading of
one of the strands--we decided it was probably because of the

vaccination. We
did another test three weeks later, and those came back even lower--
suggesting against an active infection (particularly in an immuno

suppressed
dog). We've determined that he doesn't have an active lepto

infection, and
that this is not cause for concern. But Frankie did like the weak

full of
liquid amoxil he got to take just in case.

The big problem, really, is that Frankie developed two masses in his

mouth.
They are matching on either side of his tongue, which his good,

because that
in itself suggests against cancer. It could be a reaction to the

drugs he's
taking, or benign lymphoid tissue. Or, of course, it could be

cancer, but
because it is bilateral that isn't likely. They want to biopsy, but

with the
high liver enzymes and the other conditions, as well as the fact

that they
don't think it is cancer, they are going to wait on it. I'm weighing

whether
it is even a good idea to biopsy, because cancer in the mouth is a

*bad*
place to get it, and I'm not sure whether we'd gain much from

actually
knowing or not.

But as his steroid dose goes down, he's more peppy and playful and

energetic.
He's even happier, which is amazing, since he's been stellar

throughout.
Behaviorilly, he's doing great.

So that's where we are. We're still trying to lower the steroids as

quickly
as possible while monitoring his platelet count. When low enough,

we'll
consider biopsying the masses in his mouth. In the mean time, he's

doing
super, and we're enjoying his company.

Sorry I've been off so long. More as we know more.

Be well, everyone. Best wishes to everyone.

Chad

Hi Chad,
I'm glad Frankie is doing a little better and continues to improve.
I won't say try not to worry, as it's impossible not to.
Best wishes to you and your family too,
Alison




 




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